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  • kennymallory1
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 568

    Is this CA legal?

  • #2
    Citadelgrad87
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2007
    • 16926

    Just making sure the answer to these always remains "no". I have no information other than that rule of thumb.
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    • #3
      gpark09
      Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 375

      It's a no go for CA.

      I know.... I know... but it is what it is. A huge BS.
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      • #4
        Flintlock Tom
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 3353

        It appears to have a "shoulder stock" with a barrel shorter than 16" and, if so, it is a "short-barreled rifle". SBRs require a Tax Stamp from the BATFE.
        Even with a Tax Stamp it is generally not legal to own in California.

        ~not a lawyer, your mileage may vary~
        "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
        I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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        • #5
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          must have fixed mag how would you load it.

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          • #6
            tabascoz28
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 3364

            I see these all the time at the range and everyone thinks they are legal. They argue with me all the time. I think the reasons are:

            A second handgrip.

            A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

            A stock would make it an SBR but a brace and you'd have to mag lock it.

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            • #7
              kennymallory1
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 568

              Blahhh....


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              • #8
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                Magazine outside handgrip means has to be maglocked

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                • #9
                  heidad01
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 4902

                  Kinda like the mec-tec gadgets.
                  No, not legal. For the reasons stated above and probably a few others.
                  Looks cool though.

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                  • #10
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17601

                    Originally posted by tabascoz28
                    I see these all the time at the range and everyone thinks they are legal. They argue with me all the time.
                    In a (self-serving) way this is good - non-compliance is the best form of resistance in general, even better if someone else faces the consequences.

                    An "Irish democracy" where the Irish don't know they are Irish.
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                    • #11
                      Full Clip
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 10263

                      Originally posted by edgerly779
                      Magazine outside handgrip means has to be maglocked
                      The mag up front is a spare in holder.
                      Active mag feeds from inside grip.

                      But yeah...

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30242

                        In order to be CA legal as a semi-auto centerfire rifle:
                        1. It needs a minimum barrel length of 16".
                        2. It needs a minimum overall length of 30".
                        3. It need to operate utilizing a fixed 10 round magazine that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action (removing the slide from the frame) or it can not have any restricted features (pistol grip, thumbhole stock, flash suppressor, folding/telescoping stock, forward pistol grip).

                        Also note... once it is made into a rifle, it must remain a rifle while in CA and making it back into a handgun will cause the resulting firearm to be considered a CA illegal SBR (weapon made from a rifle).

                        In order to be CA legal as a semi-auto pistol:
                        1. It needs to operate utilizing a fixed 10 round magazine that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action (removing the slide from the frame).

                        Also note... if you are modifying the handgun with the intent to shoot if from the shoulder, then you are making a CA illegal SBR (rifle with a less than 16" barrel).
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                        • #13
                          sigstroker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 19687

                          Easier to just buy a CMMG Guard or other carbine.

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                          • #14
                            Flintlock Tom
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 3353

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            ...In order to be CA legal as a semi-auto pistol:
                            1. It needs to operate utilizing a fixed 10 round magazine that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action (removing the slide from the frame)...
                            Is this new? When did a fixed magazine become a requirement for a semi-auto pistol?
                            "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
                            I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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