AR Maglocks

[C.G.]

The simple fact is, the mag can be removed with an allen wrench from outside the gun. It is no different than a bullet button in that regard, "use a tool".

If you have nothing in this life to lose, then maybe it is the compliance device for you

Simple solution, either JB weld over the alllen screw head or round out the allen screw head with a drill bit or some prefer to red loctite the threads.

[BigPimping]

Compmag. Keep all your features.

[SamGoldstein]

Absolute BS you are spreading, because DOJ does not approve or endorse any of these compliance devices and DOJ never says it is 100% legal. And the page you refer to makes a ridiculous, vague and constructed claim while helpfully reiterating what a maglock should be, then blatantly ignores the elephant in the room:

The simple fact is, the mag can be removed with an allen wrench from outside the gun. It is no different than a bullet button in that regard, "use a tool".

If you have nothing in this life to lose, then maybe it is the compliance device for you

May I quote you from another thread? You stated: "Possible to do" does not equal "he did it". It is quick and easy to change very many firearms into an illegal configuration, but until you do it you haven't done anything wrong. Amiright?

Funny thing is, I agree with you! Yeah, is it possible to remove a maglock with a tool? Yep. But, like you said "Possible to do" does not equal "he did it". Therefore, your statement about maglocks is invalid.

[SamGoldstein]

Simple solution, either JB weld over the alllen screw head or round out the allen screw head with a drill bit or some prefer to red loctite the threads.

I would never make it difficult to disassemble parts from my lower. The state wants you to make it permanent. Define permanent? Anything you use, JB or red loctite makes it difficult but not permanent. So why bother? The fact that one uses a maglock in an attempt to comply with the law is good enough. Besides, no cop is gonna inspect a maglock to determine how "permanent" it is.

[tabascoz28]

If you disassemble a maglock don't you make a single shot, no mag rifle?

[SamGoldstein]

If you disassemble a maglock don't you make a single shot, no mag rifle?

I would think so.

[SkyHawk]

If you disassemble a maglock don't you make a single shot, no mag rifle?

No, you can hold the mag in place. And in any case, you can remove the mag that is installed whenever it is installed, without disassembling the action, and that is illegal. It is the ability to REMOVE the mag without disassembling the action that the law specifically says makes it an assault weapon.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=30515.

(b) For purposes of this section, “fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.

And considering what we are witnessing in Mendicino right now with the seized AK with the easily removed fin grip, people may want to start getting smarter about their compliance gear.

[SamGoldstein]

No, you can hold the mag in place. And in any case, you can remove the mag that is installed whenever it is installed, without disassembling the action, and that is illegal. It is the ability to REMOVE the mag without disassembling the action that the law specifically says makes it an assault weapon.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=30515.




And considering what we are witnessing in Mendicino right now with the seized AK with the easily removed fin grip, people may want to start getting smarter about their compliance gear.

Isn't removing the magazine latch already considered disassembling the action? I unscrewed the latch, it is now not a standard configuration to retain a magazine, the fact that I can remove the magazine easily is irrelevant. The action is disassembled. So what is the definition of disassembled? The folks at ARMaglock made a determination because the DOJ does not specifically say. Vague laws are not good laws.

[SkyHawk]

Isn't removing the magazine latch already considered disassembling the action? I unscrewed the latch, it is now not a standard configuration to retain a magazine, the fact that I can remove the magazine easily is irrelevant. The action is disassembled. So what is the definition of disassembled? The folks at ARMaglock made a determination because the DOJ does not specifically say. Vague laws are not good laws.

If you can still fire the gun, the action is not disassembled.

And you can fire the AR without the mag catch in place. And you can hold a mag or drum in place and fire the gun until the mag runs out, without a mag catch. Not having a mag catch means nothing.

You don't get to remove a rando, inconsequential part or screw and say "look, I have disassembled the action!" Disassembling the action means the gun has no more "action". Meaning it will not operate, it will not fire.

[Yugo]

sorry for the thread jack but why everyone doesnt go featureless is beyond me/

[meno377]

sorry for the thread jack but why everyone doesnt go featureless is beyond me/

Tell that to those who have a 14.5 inch barrel with a welded and/or pinned flash hider. Not an inexpensive solution for featureless which requires them to purchase a new upper barrel at a minimum.

[Yugo]

Tell that to those who have a 14.5 inch barrel with a welded and/or pinned flash hider. Not an inexpensive solution for featureless which requires them to purchase a new upper barrel at a minimum.

good point. Continue the thread i've been officially dumbed lol

[SkyHawk]

Tell that to those who have a 14.5 inch barrel with a welded and/or pinned flash hider. Not an inexpensive solution for featureless which requires them to purchase a new upper barrel at a minimum.

They could just have the ports of the flash hider welded closed or a solid sleeve welded over the flash hider

[deckhandmike]

Tell that to those who have a 14.5 inch barrel with a welded and/or pinned flash hider. Not an inexpensive solution for featureless which requires them to purchase a new upper barrel at a minimum.

Uh, actually it’s really easy to have a gunsmith remove a fixed flashider and install a brake. Pretty cheap too. So besides looking cool I can’t figure out a reason to run a rifle like this.

[SanDiego619]

You can use a maglock device if you wish but I find going featureless to be much easier and nicer to shoot all around.