New to guns legality question

[Woodpecker035]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.

Im able to buy a firearm and my friend Tim said he would sell me one of the guns that his uncle Bob (deceased after 2015 I believe) left behind. He left behind many and a Winchester 1300 defender is one he wants to sell off. There are potentially some problems.

1. My friend is unsure who the gun is registered to, if anyone. He believes all the guns are registered to his father, his uncle's brother, since they came into his possession after Bob passed away.
2. My friend's father lived in California when Bob passed, but hasnt lived in California for a few years now.
3. For clarity: He and I live in California. The guns are in California. His uncle and father used to live in California. Uncle passed away here and his father moved out of California shortly after

In either case of of his father having the guns registered, or not registered, under him, how do we go about getting to the situation where my friend Tim can sell me the Winchester 1300? Thanks for any help

[CAL.BAR]

PM sent for help.

[003]

Where is your friend living and where do you live (States). Where is the gun in question?

[Oceanbob]

[Woodpecker035]

He and I live in California. The guns are in California. His uncle and father used to live in California. Uncle passed away here and his father moved shortly after

[Woodpecker035]

Really? There wont be any problem when we go the gun dealer/FFL if the gun actually turns out to be registered under his father, or not registered at all?

Your friend can sell it to you. You don’t have to have a gun registered to you or be the owner to sell it. The CDOJ doesn’t check on sellers at all. Your friend only needs a current DL or CID to be the seller.

As the buyers you’ll need ID, proof of address, FSC card. Wait 10 days etc.

Bob

[pacrat]

Really? There wont be any problem when we go the gun dealer/FFL if the gun actually turns out to be registered under his father, or not registered at all?

^^^CORRECT^^^

Technically it was a misdemeanor for friend to receive guns in 2015 from his Dad and not file an OPLAW form and pay $19 to DOJ.

But 2015 was 5 yr ago. So that is now a moot point. Since the "Statute of Limitation of 3 yr" for that misdemeanor expired 2 yrs ago.

As long as friend has a Ca DL or ID card issued by CaDMV. He can sell at his discretion. Without any criminal liability.

EDIT TO ADD................WELCOME TO GALGUNS WOODPECKER

[cannon]

Really? There wont be any problem when we go the gun dealer/FFL if the gun actually turns out to be registered under his father, or not registered at all?

Exactly.

DOJ cares about the buyer. Not the seller. Go and buy your gun.

[WartHog]

And don't listen to advice from CAL.BAR...

[ScottsBad]

Don't listen to this tin foil hat wingnut OP. Cal.bar is an attorney. Unlike Warthog he is willing to both help and contribute something positive to this conversation.

Whereas Warthog here is another Calgunner that frequently posts, not to contribute anything to any conversation, rather just to crap on something or someone. As you can see he does not abide fact based reality/media.

I am not an attorney, but as I understand this, what is said above is correct OP. You are GTG. But do talk to cal.bar to be certain.

Oh, and welcome to CG! It won't take you tool long to figure out who has anything to contribute and who doesn't.

And remember, you can always trust progressive Biden supporters like sfarchitect because his judgement is so state of the art and unencumbered by worries about his hypocrite status

I don't feel safe with the lefty tards around here, I demand a safe space for real Americans. Shouldn't we take names and cancel lefties or give them the option to be re-educated.



OP, you're probably GTG, but remember this is an open forum. Sorry about the previous sarcasm.

[edgerly779]

No requirement to prove ownership of firearm for seller. None of ffls business. I have done 50 dros and never was asked. Check with ffl on price of dros and whether appointment necessary and whether they release on undetermined do not use Turners.

[Calif Hunter]

The gun will be checked to verify it is not stolen. Other than that, the DOJ just wants to gun registered to the new owner. It is possible the gun has never been registered if the original purchase predates the requirement for long guns to be registered.

[bugsy714]

That is a great gun


Dictated but not read, voice typing plus bad eyes equals typos

[Woodpecker035]

do not use Turners.

Why a no with Turners? Never been just curious

I called Cal Bar and he was helpful. I talked to my friend and he talked to his father, everything seems good so were just going to do the sale

[Brother_Hesekiel]

As has been mentioned before, the California DOJ is interested who owns that gun, in case it can be connected to a crime. That means they check out the buyer, not the seller. You do not have a problem at all.