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  • CGGun
    Banned
    • Nov 2020
    • 82

    Sellers who don't put condition of gun in Marketplace ad...

    Is anyone a little bit annoyed when they see an ad with a gun listed for sale but the seller gives no indication of whether the gun is new or used?

    As a buyer isn't this one of the first things you want to know about the gun? And if it's used, what condition is it in and how many rounds have been fired through it?

    Is sellers not providing this information some sort of sales strategy I'm not aware of? I would think it'd be obvious to sellers that potential buyers would want this information and that including it in the ad would be helpful.
  • #2
    PaperTarget
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 786

    Either the seller isn't thinking of the buyer's interests or the seller is only thinking of their selfish interests.

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    • #3
      mikeyr
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 1553

      Just assume that ALL guns are used and ALL guns have been fired many hundreds of rounds until you examine the gun. NEVER EVER believe what the seller says when its only been fired X times (usually a very low number).

      Examine the gun, check it out, look it over really well and then decide if you want it or not, then check it out again just to make sure you didn't miss anything the first 3 times.

      That is the condition of the guns posted here or anywhere else...well used and shot hundreds or thousands of times until you can confirm otherwise by visual inspection. For my guns for example, they will all look pretty good, I try to take care of them cosmetically but how many rounds ? I have no guess, easily thousands, easily more in some guns, I don't keep count, never have. Do the math...400-500 rounds a year in my S&W 66 and I bought it new in 1978, I reloaded a total of 8,000 rounds last year of 9mm and .45 and that is my average per year, I own 3 9mm and 4 .45 guns, and mix them up at the range, I have no idea how many rounds and I think most people are like me, yes I know some that actually keep count.
      Last edited by mikeyr; 12-05-2020, 10:47 AM.
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      • #4
        BillSmith
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 545

        When I was in the market for a sailboat, any boat that didn't list the age of the vessel was sure to be far older than I desired.

        Condition is a conditional on perspective. Sellers are painting a desirable picture. Expect those that say a firearm is worn desire a no-runaround approach. Others, not so much.

        FWIW-I have two firearms that I could show you the physical condition, but have no idea how many rounds have gone down the barrel.
        Sometimes a gun is just a gun.

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        • #5
          Dooder
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 1512

          The Calguns default <500 rounds!
          Man, this place has gone bonkers.

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          • #6
            QuinnBayArea
            Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 353

            I've bought two high end firearms from Calguns Members, and both times they listed them as Ca Compliant, and both times they were not.

            They corrected it before selling to me.
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            • #7
              Mr. Beretta
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 6614

              Originally posted by CGGun

              Is sellers not providing this information some sort of sales strategy I'm not aware of?
              The only "strategy" I can think of is the seller isn't really interested in selling it.

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              • #8
                Snoopy47
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 3867

                Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                • #9
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 12314

                  Originally posted by CGGun
                  Is anyone a little bit annoyed when they see an ad with a gun listed for sale but the seller gives no indication of whether the gun is new or used?

                  As a buyer isn't this one of the first things you want to know about the gun? And if it's used, what condition is it in and how many rounds have been fired through it?

                  Is sellers not providing this information some sort of sales strategy I'm not aware of? I would think it'd be obvious to sellers that potential buyers would want this information and that including it in the ad would be helpful.

                  https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1670267



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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #10
                    CGGun
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2020
                    • 82



                    Thank you for providing a link to my prior thread. For anyone interested in the topic I would encourage you to read the actual thread because this persons characterization of it is entirely inaccurate.

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                    • #11
                      The Gleam
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 12314

                      Originally posted by CGGun
                      Thank you for providing a link to my prior thread. For anyone interested in the topic I would encourage you to read the actual thread because this persons characterization of it is entirely inaccurate.
                      Your claims of 'false advertising' were over the top, and admit it - the above is damned funny.

                      Even Karen thought so.
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                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                      • #12
                        larkja
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 1362

                        Originally posted by mikeyr
                        NEVER EVER believe what the seller says when its only been fired X times (usually a very low number).
                        Can't agree with you there. I have sold many guns that were purchased new by me and only shot a few times. Good example. Purchased CZ Rami a few years ago and sold after only sending two magazines downrange. Just didn't like the recoil.

                        Same goes with some long guns. Picked up a .270 with a blind magazine (never had one before) and didn't like pressing the rounds in under the scope - was a PITA for me. Shot, maybe, 10 rounds before selling.

                        If the seller doesn't list condition, politely message or post to please add the condition. If he/she doesn't, move along. If you do meet up, it will be pretty clear if the seller took care of the gun. Is it clean, or does it appear ridden hard and put away wet?

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                        • #13
                          CGGun
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2020
                          • 82

                          Originally posted by The Gleam
                          Your claims of 'false advertising' were over the top, and admit it - the above is damned funny.

                          Even Karen thought so.

                          It was clearly false advertising, nothing over the top about pointing it out. And trying to claim it wasn't false advertising is just outright delusional, or you don't know what false advertising means. But if you have any more thoughts on the matter, I would suggest you post them in that thread..not sure why you would bring it up here in a thread on a completely unrelated topic.

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                          • #14
                            The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 12314

                            Originally posted by CGGun
                            It was clearly false advertising, nothing over the top about pointing it out. And trying to claim it wasn't false advertising is just outright delusional, or you don't know what false advertising means. But if you have any more thoughts on the matter, I would suggest you post them in that thread..not sure why you would bring it up here in a thread on a completely unrelated topic.
                            Actually, it wasn't; you just think it was - and that's like, just your opinion man.

                            It was simply a seller that hadn't a clue about what they wanted to sell, and little more.

                            You seem to have a lot of opinions about for sale ads that can easily be rectified by questions, or simply ignoring those for which you are not interested. Thereby, that thread, and this thread, centered around you as the focal point and originator make them ENTIRELY related topics.

                            By the way, welcome to Calguns.
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                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                            • #15
                              fnlrun
                              Member
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 486

                              Originally posted by PaperTarget
                              Either the seller isn't thinking of the buyer's interests or the seller is only thinking of their selfish interests.
                              Or....They just shoot the damn thing not and round count like some people. Wipe it with with a fine shamie and put her in a wooden box every time they shoot it. It's a tool, just like a hammer. Your reason is simply wrong.

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