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  • steelholder
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3328

    Featureless registration?

    I have a friend with a home here and a free state. I'd like to buy one of his rifles thay he purchased in a free state. Does he need to register to it to his name before PPTing it to me? It will be a featureless AK, not banned here by name.
    WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer
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    beanz2
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 12032

    Is the rifle in CA or the other state? If it's still in the other state, he will have to ship it to an accepting FFL to transfer to you. If it is in CA, did he import it properly through a CA FFL? If he did, he can sell it to you like any other gun.

    Of course it has to be featureless the moment it enters the state. Ten round magazines too.
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    • #3
      steelholder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3328

      Thanks Beanz
      WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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      • #4
        edgerly779
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2009
        • 19871

        If he bought it there and brings it here to ppt then no go. Should go to ffl here for transfer no ppt . Interstate transfer.

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        • #5
          Featureless
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2018
          • 2267

          Where does the US Constitution say "The right to keep and bear arms, subject to governmental approval shall not be infringed"?
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          Lifelong Gun Owner
          NRA Member
          CRPA Member

          ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

          Declaration of Independence, 1776

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by steelholder
            I have a friend with a home here and a free state. I'd like to buy one of his rifles thay he purchased in a free state. Does he need to register to it to his name before PPTing it to me? It will be a featureless AK, not banned here by name.
            Because of CA laws regulating the importation of firearms into CA by a CA resident...

            Firearm needs to be modified to be CA legal before it enters CA and it can not include any large capacity magazines or large capacity magazine parts kits.

            If the firearm is located in the other State they reside in, then the firearm needs to be shipped to a CA FFL dealer. Who will then transfer it to you as a non-PPT (dealer transfer). Since this is not a PPT, the CA FFL dealer can legally charge any amount of money to facilitate the transfer.

            If the firearm is located in CA and they did not utilize a CA FFL dealer to bring it into CA, then it is an illegally imported firearm and subject to confiscation/destruction.

            If the firearm is located in CA and they utilized a CA FFL dealer to import the firearm into CA, then they can PPT the firearm to you.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              Featureless
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2018
              • 2267

              Originally posted by Quiet
              Because of CA laws regulating the importation of firearms into CA by a CA resident...

              Firearm needs to be modified to be CA legal before it enters CA and it can not include any large capacity magazines or large capacity magazine parts kits.

              If the firearm is located in the other State they reside in, then the firearm needs to be shipped to a CA FFL dealer. Who will then transfer it to you as a non-PPT (dealer transfer). Since this is not a PPT, the CA FFL dealer can legally charge any amount of money to facilitate the transfer.

              If the firearm is located in CA and they did not utilize a CA FFL dealer to bring it into CA, then it is an illegally imported firearm and subject to confiscation/destruction.

              If the firearm is located in CA and they utilized a CA FFL dealer to import the firearm into CA, then they can PPT the firearm to you.
              Where does the Second Amendment say all that?
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              Lifelong Gun Owner
              NRA Member
              CRPA Member

              ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

              Declaration of Independence, 1776

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by Featureless
                Where does the Second Amendment say all that?
                It's in the US Constitution.
                It's the part that created SCOTUS and granted them to legal authority to determine what is Constitutionally legal.
                Which lead to SCOTUS ruling "reasonable restrictions" are Constitutionally legal and then left it up to the States to decide what those restrictions are.
                Last edited by Quiet; 11-22-2020, 6:39 PM.
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #9
                  M1NM
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 7966

                  He can't be a resident of both states. If he still has a CA driver's license how did he buy it out of state (if from an FFL). He can ship or bring it here and sell it to you. If the other state is his residence (no CA driver license) it won't be a PPT and the FFL will need to log it into his bound book with his fees for this service. It's federal that all interstate transfers (xcpt family) go through an FFL not a CA law. If he has a CA DL just go to the FFL and do a PPT - how he got it as a CA resident is not your problem.

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                  • #10
                    MountainLion
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 519

                    Originally posted by M1NM
                    He can't be a resident of both states.
                    Yes he can be a resident of multiple states. Even better, for different questions (such as taxes, gun buying, college tuition), you can get different answers whether you are a resident of a state or not.

                    It is actually true that as long as you follow the rules, you can only have one driver's license. But it is perfectly possible to have a DL from one state, and an ID card from another state. Plus, having a DL or ID card doesn't determine residency for federal gun buying purposes anyway.
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