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  • rodralig
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2016
    • 4262

    Enjoying gun ownership but voting against the establishment protecting our gun rights

    I do understand that our education, upbringing, knowledge, skills and life experiences drive our political leanings..

    But what I don't understand (after 4-years' of firearms' ownership) - that GUN OWNERS would VOTE against the establishment fighting for our gun rights!

    This came out in my Facebook page. I do know that the posters, etc. are the Left because they have campaigned exclusively AGAINST the establishment (my Newsfeed is filled with them). The only way I see this is hypocritical!

    It is so difficult... Especially for people volunteering their time/money/resources to organizations like the CRPA, the GOA, FPC, etc. to further the fight while others just get to enjoy the fruits...


    I haven't posted something like this before... But really - can I get enlightened?








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    Last edited by rodralig; 11-16-2020, 4:02 PM.

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  • #2
    PaperTarget
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 786

    At best, those gun owners that vote liberal are not single-issue voters.

    I wonder how many just live in their dreamworld without thinking into the future.

    By the way, save the Senate!

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    • #3
      rodralig
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2016
      • 4262

      Already DID...!!!

      The fight never ends...


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      • #4
        PaperTarget
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 786

        Originally posted by rodralig
        Already DID...!!!

        The fight never ends...


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        Good on you!

        And, yes, the fight doesn't end!

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        • #5
          Blownmotor
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 1334

          I hope these Leftards freeloaded off of our hard work that bought guns get shot with their own guns.
          History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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          • #6
            SC1
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2016
            • 555

            Maybe because the existing laws and processes are good enough for them right now. They were able to buy a gun and ammo through the existing awful processes.


            But wait til they get something taken away. Once they experience more restrictions and takeaways that affect their “norm” then they will start to realize.

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            • #7
              Pretty fly for a Cabinetguy
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2016
              • 3657

              Just a matter of priorities. People vote for what they THINK will serve them best.

              That...or ignorance because they are too lazy to research or think for themselves.
              Wilson Protector .45, Springer 9mm Loaded, Franchi Instinct SL .12ga. and some other cool stuff for the kiddos...

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              • #8
                Verdha603
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2019
                • 882

                Not all gun owners are single issue voters, and frankly many of them do not believe in full on unrestricted gun rights.

                Classic exhibit A is a "friend" of mine still living in CA; owns guns, but is perfectly fine with CA-style gun control and even imposing it at the federal level because all the firearms he's interested in will never end up close to the top of the gun-control ban list; manually operated long guns and revolvers are all he cares about, and frankly he wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if he got told ownership of any semi-automatic firearm was outright banned with a lengthy jail sentence attached to it because he does full-on believe there's no legitimate reason for a private citizen to own any semi-automatic or full-automatic firearm in a 21st century society.

                Do I think he's voting against other gun owners interests? Heck yes, but it still doesn't change that gun owners like him exist and do vote, just like the rest of us. Not all gun owners are for gun rights, and frankly many of them are worse than gun-control advocates because they then become the proverbial poster child of the "responsible gun owner" for the gun-control crowd precisely because they're willing to bend over and take all the new gun control laws because it either doesn't affect any of the guns they own/intend to own, or they simply consider the laws a simple inconvenience rather than an outright infringement.

                The quote on quote "Fudd's" are real in the gun owning community, and I don't just mean the stereotypical hunter or sport shooter that preaches the whole "semi-auto's and 11+ magazines are unsporting, and I don't own any, therefore I don't care if you ban them" types, I mean anyone that's willing to bend over for more gun control laws simply because of what I stated above; it doesn't affect what they own right now or it doesn't inconvenience them enough to care, whether it's the younger "technical types" fine with all guns being "smart guns" because they don't care about any of the older guns, or the "casual gun owner" that only owns one or two guns that will most likely never feel inconvenienced with "one gun a month laws/mandated waiting periods" simply because they won't buy more than one or two in their lifetime, amongst many others.
                Last edited by Verdha603; 11-19-2020, 12:55 AM. Reason: Had to add some additional clarification at the end.

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                • #9
                  Scratch705
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2009
                  • 12520

                  Originally posted by Verdha603
                  Not all gun owners are single issue voters, and frankly many of them do not believe in full on unrestricted gun rights.

                  Classic exhibit A is a "friend" of mine still living in CA; owns guns, but is perfectly fine with CA-style gun control and even imposing it at the federal level because all the firearms he's interested in will never end up close to the top of the gun-control ban list; manually operated long guns and revolvers are all he cares about, and frankly he wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if he got told ownership of any semi-automatic firearm was outright banned with a lengthy jail sentence attached to it because he does full-on believes there's no legitimate reason for a private citizen to own any semi-automatic or full-automatic firearm in a 21st century society.

                  Do I think he's voting against other gun owners interests? Heck yes, but it still doesn't change that gun owners like him exist and do vote, just like the rest of us.
                  yep. got someone i know that has the same mentality.

                  for me, being a gun owner doesn't make someone a supporter of the 2A. they are just gun owners. they don't care about the future of the 2A, they just want to own a gun. and if it is banned in the future, they will just go "oh well, time to find a different hobby"

                  it is very hard to change the thinking of these gun owners to become 2A supporters cause they just don't care.
                  Originally posted by leelaw
                  Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                  Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                  Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                  Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                  Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                  • #10
                    OCEquestrian
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 6782

                    Democrat voting gun owners re not the epitome of HYPOCRICY, but they are also free riders on the shoulders of the rest of us who have been voting, donating $, time etc in the fight to keep what few gun rights we still have in this state/country.

                    I am of the opinion that these democrat gun owners should be publicly shamed and shunned, something they understand as they have done that to Republicans/Trump supporters for 4 years.
                    Last edited by OCEquestrian; 11-16-2020, 7:45 PM.
                    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                    • #11
                      Divernhunter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2010
                      • 8753

                      people in general are stupid and that is what the democraps rely on
                      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
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                      • #12
                        jeremiah12
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 2065

                        Back when the first AW ban was up for consideration, I was for it. I lived just a few blocks from where the Cleveland school shooting happened. I still live within a mile of the school. My mother was an RN at the nearest hospital that was also the major trauma center at that time. She was called into work on her day off and I had to go over to watch my youngest brother. I was at home writing my Master's thesis at the time.

                        She worked a 24 hour shift.

                        I had my Winchester 94 in .30-30 and that was good enough for me. Nobody needed a killing machine like an AK or AR.

                        My POS dad whom my mother divorced years earlier for domestic violence was ranting about how bad the ban would be. He was a table top FFL and I was happy a few years later when he lost his FFL and guns after his domestic violence convictions were finally put into the computer system and caught up to him so he became prohibited.

                        After Sandy Hook I had a complete change of mind. I could no longer defend myself physically due to a stroke. I needed a gun and decided a semiauto handgun was the best. That is when I found Calguns. I learned how bad laws in CA had become. All of a sudden I realized that there was no such thing as an AW and even though AKs and ARs where really not my thing I had better work to protect them as well as other types of gun because if they are banned it is just the start of a slippery slope.

                        CA has proven that over the past several years. They pass a law and of course with the pace of technological innovations today, a way is quickly found to satisfy the law so the politicians then pass a law to ban the latest innovation. It will never stop until they ban all guns.

                        The problem in CA, so many of the younger generation are used to jumping through hoops to buy guns and they think it is normal.

                        My mom bought my hunting rifle for me from Kmart when I was 11 as a birthday present. She took me and I picked it up off the shelf and put it in the basket and she paid for it at the check out and off we went. No background checks, no paperwork, no hassle. I believe she also bought me two boxes of ammo and a cleaning kit. My neighbor showed me how to clean it and took me deer hunting the following fall. By then I had shot it a few times after sighting it in. This was in Santa Cruz. It was stored in my bedroom closet loaded because unloaded it was useless. It was always loaded just in case it needed to be used for home defense. That is what I was taught. I was also not to pick it up to play with it at home. I only handled it to unload it to get it ready to go to the range or hunting, or to use it for self-defense. My siblings were to never go near my closet to touch it, ever.

                        BTW, that loaded rifle saved my life a few years later when some druggies broke down our door to get payback for my mother calling the police on them. They did this when she was working the evening shift and I was home with my siblings. I barely had enough time to get to the gun; if I had to load it, we would have been killed.


                        It would never happen today.

                        I have been to a few free states looking for a place to move too when I retire. I am amazed at the attitude towards guns I have found in a few. The expectation is everyone is armed and nobody flinches to see someone open carrying. Those that do have a CCW do not even have to go through a NICS check to buy. It is cash and carry. The state I am considering even has constitutional carry now.

                        Until we get enough people here who realize that they are frogs in a pot of water that is slowly having the temperature being raised and they need to jump out before it is too late and stop voting democratic, we will be stuck with even more gun control laws and a court system that acts too slow to reverse the flood of new laws.

                        I realized that reality in CA has turned upside down when I am really a classic liberal like our Founding Fathers but am considered a far right conservative by today's liberals who are more like socialists.
                        Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

                        A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

                        Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

                        --Librarian

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                        • #13
                          BucDan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4060

                          They're the same idiots that will vote for Biden, donate to the left, but then be happy that crpa/SAF/etc win lawsuits about standard capacity mags and roster handguns. Then vote against it.

                          Go to reddit's r/Caguns. They're filled with this type.

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                          • #14
                            Garand Hunter
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 2757

                            Thanks Jeremiah for the posting !

                            Psalm 1

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                            • #15
                              rodralig
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4262

                              Originally posted by BucDan
                              They're the same idiots that will vote for Biden, donate to the left, but then be happy that crpa/SAF/etc win lawsuits about standard capacity mags and roster handguns. Then vote against it.

                              Go to reddit's r/Caguns. They're filled with this type.
                              Well... We have a share of that, too, here in CalGuns.Net and a few in the FB Calguns Members page.



                              A slap in the face indeed!!!

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