What exactly is the CA law regarding selling ammo at gun shows?

[puzzledeagle]

I was at a Code of the West gun show today and noticed some vendors had a sign saying they needed to do a background check to do ammo, but then I noticed other vendors just selling them to buyers with cash in hand like normal. What exactly is the law regarding this?

[ar15barrels]

I was at a Code of the West gun show today and noticed some vendors had a sign saying they needed to do a background check to do ammo, but then I noticed other vendors just selling them to buyers with cash in hand like normal. What exactly is the law regarding this?

There is no differentiation.
Ammo sales in CA all have to go through the background check or COE check.

[edgerly779]

The vendors selling without background check were breaking the law.

[PVT Zimm]

The Vendors selling without a background check were following the Constitution. Unconstitutional laws are, well Unconstitutional.

[sbo80]

Unconstitutional laws are, well Unconstitutional.

That may be, but the law remains in force regardless, and is enforceable and punishable. Openly buying ammo at a gun show seems a silly way to arrested just to make a point.

[ar15barrels]

That may be, but the law remains in force regardless, and is enforceable and punishable.
Openly buying ammo at a gun show seems a silly way to arrested just to make a point.

Don't discourage him.
We need a test case...

[Fishslayer]

The Vendors selling without a background check were following the Constitution. Unconstitutional laws are, well Unconstitutional.

I've been wondering where the tipping point was. I have been putting out big $$$ and a constant PITA abiding by the law & keeping my $#!T compliant with the law.

Guess some people have had enough.

[divingin]

The vendors selling without background check were breaking the law.

As were the customers.

[Bansh88]

Should start a subforum to report directly to ATF/CADOJ. Lot of members here would love it!

[sigstroker]

Should start a subforum to report directly to ATF/CADOJ. Lot of members here would love it!

Complete with a snitch line to call.

[Lmo]

Is there an ID card for FFL03 holders (which would waive having to endure the 'background check')?

[mhlang99]

Yes just bring your paper copy of your 03 FFL, and a paper copy of your COE, and you will only be charged a $1.00 for the background check. Add a Ca. Ammo Vendor License, skip the payment line.

[Quiet]

Is there an ID card for FFL03 holders (which would waive having to endure the 'background check')?

A person with just a valid C&R 03-FFL is not exempt from CA ammo transfer laws.

A person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid COE is exempt from needing to utilize a CA licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer to:
1. transfer ammo from a non-vendor/FFL, within CA. [PC 30312(c)(6)]
2. import ammo into CA. [PC 30314(b)(5)]

A person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid COE is not exempt from the CA DROS and ammo verification check, when acquiring ammo from a CA licensed ammo vendor or CA FFL dealer.
^They are processed as a COE verification check. [PC 30370(a)(2) and 11 CCR 4305]

[sbo80]

Complete with a snitch line to call.

The OP asked what the law was, and a response was "it's unconstitutional" which was not helpful. It's a big leap from providing the information on current law as was asked, and suggesting people here want to snitch. Everyone is free to make their own choices here whether or not to comply, but making an informed choice is helpful. Buying ammo without any check is illegal. So is speeding. So is having family out of state ship you fruit. Etc. etc.

[FLIGHT762]

Don't discourage him.
We need a test case...

Exactly.

The OP asked what the law was, and a response was "it's unconstitutional" which was not helpful.

PVT Zimm is welcome to sacrifice himself for the greater good. I look forward to Zimm VS Becerra.