Campaign signs as target stands?

[Jimi Jah]

If it's on public property (roadsides) they are yours for the taking.

Using them for years I have suggestions:

Avoid smaller signs with the metal poles underneath, bullets will hit those. Use the larger square signs with the poles on the ends, that way you won't shoot the metal poles out. Save the metal poles on shot out signs, you may need them for others.

Wind is never an issue because if the sign blows, so does your shot.

[DRM6000]

Don't take them. If they're not removed in the legal time frame, report that campaign. Obviously, report the ones you don't like. Try to get them fined.

[divingin]

I recall that a friend of mine who ran for public office said part of the permitting included a fee for the city to pick the signs up after election. Might just be a local thing though.

[greensoup]

Just ring the doorbell and tell the owner you are collecting signs to recycle.

[Humboldt Leatherneck]

You can recycle them for other uses also...

A screen shot from a Black Rifle Coffee Company video - gotta give credit to their creativity!

[slamfire1]

So, after today, those 2020 campaign signs all be an eyesore and some sore loser campaign workers will leave them up until the county clean up crew removes them in July. What is your take on taking them as target stands?

One may be accused of stealing, even after the election is over, but most political campaign workers and the neighborhood probably would be happy to see them gone.

BTW, I like those JOE ones. They already have a target drawn.

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Pick them up and use them. They are just waste and require the city/state to spend time, people, money to go collect them.

I use them all the time.

[MountainLion]

If it's on public property (roadsides) they are yours for the taking.

Can you find and present some evidence for two assertions you made:

Roadsides are public property. My claim is: in general they are private property. Look at some plot maps in California.

Private goods (such as campaign signs) that are placed on public property (such as a government-owned piece of land) becomes "yours for the taking".

Yes, there are rules about abandoned property. Campaign signs can only be considered abandoned after the election. And then, if the campaign that put them up doesn't clean them up, and the local government (city or county) has to do that, they will be billed for it.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but you are advising people to break the law.

[Jimi Jah]

Show the statute that says cleaning up abandoned trash on the side of the road is illegal. Carlsbad PD will not cite me, they thanked me for picking up what they consider trash.

Maybe your local cops are @holes, but not around here.

[Marauder2003]

Went to my FFL yesterday. They had 5 Trump lawn signs. Said some lady came in and just gave them to the shop. The shop said I could have them. With no place to shoot I passed.

[MountainLion]

Show the statute that says cleaning up abandoned trash on the side of the road is illegal.

California PC 484: "Every person who shall feloniously steal, .. the personal property of another, ... is guilty of theft."

You making the "abandoned" and "trash" argument within a few days of the election is just laughable.

[NATO762]

California PC 484: "Every person who shall feloniously steal, .. the personal property of another, ... is guilty of theft."

You making the "abandoned" and "trash" argument within a few days of the election is just laughable.

I agree. They are all trash a few minutes after midnight on the 3rd.

[Jimi Jah]

California PC 484: "Every person who shall feloniously steal, .. the personal property of another, ... is guilty of theft."

You making the "abandoned" and "trash" argument within a few days of the election is just laughable.

They are available at 12:01 Wednesday night.

Carlsbad PD has my back here, they love us cleaning up the city. Maybe you live in a less desirable area or have @hole police?

You can come here and pick up as many as you like, no problems. BTW, wet, old campaign signs are not worth a felony charge, not worth $951 each.

[humble servant]

Be aware that local candidates frequently recover their signs for use in the next election. One of our neighbors in Concord stayed on some board, and she re-used hers. Several of the city council people in Cottage Grove reported low expenditures this time because they re-used signs.

But proposition and national campaigns should be one-offs, and good 'candidates' for re-use -

Very true. Unfortunately I think the progressives realize this. It's twofold for them. They take away the exposure and hurt the campaign financially. My son is a field campaign manager for a local mayoral candidate and the left has labeled the candidate a racist as well as other nasty things. They have stolen the signs my son put out by the hundreds. Also vandalizing them by the same numbers. The cost is tremendous.

[humble servant]

Having been a campaign manager: Campaign signs are property of the campaigns. Usually they are not placed on public property, since in most suburban places they go in front yards, and in rural areas, private property goes all the way up to the edge of the road (sometimes to the center). Taking them without authorization is theft. And yes, when I campaigned, we used to number them in pen (small letters on the back), track where they were placed, and call the sheriff when they vanished. When a stack of about a hundred of ours were found in a dumpster near the house of one of the volunteers of the other campaign, a sheriff's deputy had some "serious words" with that campaign. When a dozen of ours were found to have been modified (they put "vote no" stickers over our "vote yes" signs), the election commission investigated, and fined them.

So please leave them alone. In particular in this day and age of front porch cameras, unless you want to have a visit from law enforcement.

I agree. My son has an ap on his phone that shows property lines. The signs are placed on private property some up to the property line.

We also retrieved a large number of stolen signs. The leftist who stole them vaguely bragged about it and divulged the location of the dumped signs on their commie Facebook group. It's become such a "thing" that the police won't do anything about it. We were told "the property owner must file a report". Some have done that but nothing is done about it in our area.