Anyone register Title 1 yet?

[WoodrowShootist]

Anyone have any successful or denial experiences of registering their 1919, ma deuce or any other title 1 to report?

[JamesY]

Do it and let us know how it goes?

[SkyHawk]

Anyone have any successful or denial experiences of registering their 1919, ma deuce or any other title 1 to report?

I am still trying to figure out what feature requires a 1919 to be registered.

[9mmrevolver]

Will I be able to register a right side plate if not built yet

[SkyHawk]

Will I be able to register a right side plate if not built yet

They will ask for photos of any RAWs. So I doubt it.

[CSACANNONEER]

I am still trying to figure out what feature requires a 1919 to be registered.

A 1919A4 would be considered a featureless rifle however, if you remove the A4 stock, you end up with:

(9) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that does not have a fixed magazine, but that has any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(G) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(H) A second handgrip.
(I) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(J) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

When it comes to 1919s, do you have a good way to modify it so that it complies with BOTH (I) and (J)? If so, please share.

[SkyHawk]

A 1919A4 would be considered a featureless rifle however, if you remove the A4 stock, you end up with:

(I) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(J) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.


When it comes to 1919s, do you have a good way to modify it so that it complies with BOTH (I) and (J)? If so, please share.

A 1919A4 does not have a pistol grip, in the true sense of the phrase. And certainly one with a spade trigger could not be argued to be a pistol grip, even though the traditional trigger grip of a 1919A4 is not a pistol grip in that you could never hold the firearm in your hand like a pistol using that grip.

It also does not have a shroud that would allow a person to fire without burning their hand, it has a cooling jacket (term given in the original patent) which acts as a heat sink designed to save the barrel from melting down or rounds from cooking off, and it will very much burn the hand. Only an idiot would try and fire it whilest hanging on to that jacket. You could not hold on to it any longer than you could hold onto the bare barrel.

So still waiting...

[Quiet]

Anyone register Title 1 yet?

Anyone have any successful or denial experiences of registering their 1919, ma deuce or any other title 1 to report?

The registration window has not opened yet.

CA DOJ BOF has also not released their regulations that will govern how the registration window/process will proceed. [PC 30900(c)(5)]



Penal Code 30900
(c)(1) Any person who, prior to September 1, 2020, lawfully possessed an assault weapon as defined by paragraph (9), (10), or (11) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515, and is eligible to register an assault weapon as set forth in Section 30950, shall submit an application to register the firearm before January 1, 2022, but not before the effective date of the regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5), with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish by regulation pursuant to paragraph (5).
(2) Registration applications shall be submitted in a manner and format to be specified by the department in regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5).
(3) The registration application shall contain a description of the firearm that identifies it uniquely, including all identification marks, the date the firearm was acquired, the name and address of the individual from whom, or business from which, the firearm was acquired, as well as the registrant’s full name, address, telephone number, date of birth, sex, height, weight, eye color, hair color, and California driver’s license number or California identification card number, and any other information that the department may deem appropriate. The registration application shall also contain photographs of the firearm, as specified by the department in regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5).
(4) For each registration application, the department may charge a fee that consists of the amount the department is authorized to require a dealer to charge each firearm purchaser under subdivision (a) of Section 28233, not to exceed the reasonable processing costs of the department. For registration applications seeking to register multiple firearms, the fee shall increase by up to five dollars ($5) for each additional firearm after the first, not to exceed the reasonable processing costs of the department. The fee shall be paid in a manner specified by the department in regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5) at the time the registration application is submitted to the department. The fee shall be deposited in the Dealers’ Record of Sale Special Account to be used for purposes of this section.
(5) The department shall adopt regulations for the purpose of implementing this subdivision and paragraphs (9), (10), and (11) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515. These regulations are exempt from the Administrative Procedure Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 11340) of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of the Government Code).

[ar15barrels]

I am still trying to figure out what feature requires a 1919 to be registered.

SB118

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB118

(10) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

[CSACANNONEER]

A 1919A4 does not have a pistol grip, in the true sense of the phrase. And certainly one with a spade trigger could not be argued to be a pistol grip, even though the traditional trigger grip of a 1919A4 is not a pistol grip in that you could never hold the firearm in your hand like a pistol using that grip.

It also does not have a shroud that would allow a person to fire without burning their hand, it has a cooling jacket (term given in the original patent) which acts as a heat sink designed to save the barrel from melting down or rounds from cooking off, and it will very much burn the hand. Only an idiot would try and fire it whilest hanging on to that jacket. You could not hold on to it any longer than you could hold onto the bare barrel.

So still waiting...

Even if it only has spade grips, it has "(J) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip." There's nothing that says it has to have a pistol grip just that it "can not accept a detachable magazine outside the pistol grip" so, it does have that whether or not it has a "pistol grip". You can argue all you want about the barrel shroud but, do you really think that all 58 DAs in CA (and all juries) will agree with your interpretation?