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  • bluestaterebel
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 3052

    AR Pistol

    Anyone here know of an AR pistol friendly FFL in SO Cal?
    Originally posted by 11Z50
    Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

    Figure that out and exercise your mind.....
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    12GAUGE
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 614

    Bright Spot Pawn

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    • #3
      bluestaterebel
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 3052

      Originally posted by 12GAUGE
      Cool, thanks for the info, is Bright Spot the only ones down here?
      Originally posted by 11Z50
      Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

      Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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      • #4
        12GAUGE
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 614

        I dont know if it is the only, but it is the best one.

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        • #5
          ENTHUSIAST
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 4440

          +1 Bright Spot Pawn

          Originally posted by 12GAUGE
          I dont know if it is the only, but it is the best one.
          For sure, why mess with the rest when you can deal with the BEST!

          Viva Bright Spot Pawn!!!
          Last edited by ENTHUSIAST; 05-21-2009, 7:26 PM.

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          • #6
            glock_this
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2005
            • 8225

            just curious, as I do not follow AR pistol threads much at all, but if you had a spare lower sitting around that was DROSd as a long gun/rifle, could you buy a AR 1 shot sled pistol upper and slap it together and be legal? or does the lower have to be a "pistol" DROSd lower?
            10 +1 in the chamber

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            • #7
              ENTHUSIAST
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 4440

              Originally posted by glock_this
              just curious, as I do not follow AR pistol threads much at all, but if you had a spare lower sitting around that was DROSd as a long gun/rifle, could you buy a AR 1 shot sled pistol upper and slap it together and be legal? or does the lower have to be a "pistol" DROSd lower?
              No can do, it has to be DROS'd as a "Pistol" to avoid breaking Fed SBR laws.

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              • #8
                glock_this
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2005
                • 8225

                Originally posted by ENTHUSIAST
                No can do, it has to be DROS'd as a "Pistol" to avoid breaking Fed SBR laws.
                thanks.. physically speaking, they are the exact same lower, no?

                so do you just say you want to DROS it as a "pistol" instead of a "rifle"?

                assuming so, why would an FFL elect to DROS the exact same lower as a "rifle" but pass on doing your DROS if you asked to have it done as a "pistol"?
                10 +1 in the chamber

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                • #9
                  Gio
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10251

                  Originally posted by glock_this
                  thanks.. physically speaking, they are the exact same lower, no?

                  so do you just say you want to DROS it as a "pistol" instead of a "rifle"?

                  assuming so, why would an FFL elect to DROS the exact same lower as a "rifle" but pass on doing your DROS if you asked to have it done as a "pistol"?
                  Pretty much, but pistols have to be dros'd as complete unless it has been dros'd before and it is a ftf exchange. AR Pistols are not on the safe list therefore when acquiring one you have to have it be complete and in a single shot conversion with some kind of bb as well. That is how you get exempted from the safe list for pistols. Which is deifferent from rifles since there is no safe drop list

                  -Gio
                  ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                  • #10
                    ke6guj
                    Moderator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 23725

                    no, you can't just have a lower DROSed as a pistol because then the ROster comes into play. A bare lower is not Roster-exempt, but a dimensionally-compliant single-shot handgun is roster-exempt. That is why people have single-shot ARs built up out of state, shipped to the local FFL, and then it can be DROSed as a pistol.
                    Jack



                    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                    • #11
                      glock_this
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 8225

                      okay.. makes sense... thanks. since not following AR pistols much, I was wondering in the back of my head if I could just take a spare lower I had and make one OR take my lower and have it reDROSd as a "pistol".. but I see now why I could not do either.
                      10 +1 in the chamber

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                      • #12
                        rabagley
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 7180

                        There's an additional requirement, and that's that the pistol lower is created and originally specified by the manufacturer as a pistol lower.

                        See Anvil Arms pistol lower for an ideal starting point: http://anvilarms.com/pc-326-19-regis...-receiver.aspx

                        No affiliation with Anvil Arms, just a satisfied repeat customer.
                        "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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                        • #13
                          glock_this
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 8225

                          1 other thing.. why would an FFL opt to pass on DROS on an AR pistol? at my FFL the other day and he was DROSing rifles, lowers, pistols, but a guy called and asked if he would DROS a complete AR pistol and he said no.. why? If it is a pistol and legit, why not DROS it?
                          10 +1 in the chamber

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                          • #14
                            Seesm
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7812

                            My local black rifle shop will not dros a pistol lower either. Is it TOO grey of a area? I have 80% I finished to build a pistol and have since halted till it is more clear it is ok...

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                            • #15
                              glock_this
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 8225

                              Originally posted by rabagley
                              There's an additional requirement, and that's that the pistol lower is created and originally specified by the manufacturer as a pistol lower.

                              See Anvil Arms pistol lower for an ideal starting point: http://anvilarms.com/pc-326-19-regis...-receiver.aspx

                              No affiliation with Anvil Arms, just a satisfied repeat customer.
                              thanks... that link was useful reading whether interested in this brand or even an AR pistol or not, informative.
                              10 +1 in the chamber

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