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  • scooter
    Junior Member
    • May 2008
    • 15

    Why So Cheap?

    Have a 16" m4 bushmaster upper. Dont know much about rail systems for my AR but came across this one that seems much cheaper than average....anything wrong with it? or could anyone recommend a good one (non freefloat for easy application)

    Thanks,

    Scott

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    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    UTG is airsoft parts. They are designed for airsoft use, not for real firearm use.



    edit: IIRC, some people do use UTG stuff for firearms usage without issues, but YMMV.
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    • #3
      Semperpluris
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 46

      Originally posted by scooter
      Have a 16" m4 bushmaster upper. Dont know much about rail systems for my AR but came across this one that seems much cheaper than average....anything wrong with it? or could anyone recommend a good one (non freefloat for easy application)

      Thanks,

      Scott

      http://www.combathunting.com/product...5&product=5750
      Cheapo Chinese garbage. Period! I'd start with anything made here in the USA. You could go with Troy Industries 7" drop in. I'm not sure if it's the lowest price stuff, but I can assure you it's not the most expensive. I approach buying AR/Gun stuff like getting lasiks or tattoos. I may not be able to afford a world famous Beverly Hills eye surgeon, but I sure as hell ain't looking for lowest price tattoos in town (snip this coupon for 2 for 1 tatts on Tattoo Thursday). I'm totally satisfied with my Troy Rail and I'm sure you'd be able to find a good deal on Gunbroker or Ebay.
      Last edited by Semperpluris; 05-25-2009, 8:33 PM.
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      • #4
        Semperpluris
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 46

        Originally posted by scooter
        Have a 16" m4 bushmaster upper. Dont know much about rail systems for my AR but came across this one that seems much cheaper than average....anything wrong with it? or could anyone recommend a good one (non freefloat for easy application)

        Thanks,

        Scott

        http://www.combathunting.com/product...5&product=5750
        Oops! I almost for got to mention. I'm under the impression that Troy Rails are one of the easiest to install. Mine was a piece of cake. Although it was a FF variety, the 7" drop in sounds even easier.

        Last edited by Semperpluris; 05-21-2009, 2:55 AM. Reason: link
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        • #5
          Nate74
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 1104

          I just put some Midwest Industries rails on my CAR. Easy to install and seem very solid. A little over twice the price of the UTGs on the link in the OP.

          I have to say though, I got a UTG flip up rear sight



          that I've been fairly happy with. Seems well made. Machining and blueing is clean and holds accuracy (better than I do at least).
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          • #6
            tango5
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2276

            If your looking for inexpensive rails that are good quality, check out Yankee Hill Machine. They make good stuff and very reasonably priced.
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            • #7
              maxicon
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4661

              The UTG rails are good for the money. Generally, people who bash them have never actually used them. They're tight and solid, and hold up well. Check the reviews from people who have them mounted. Yes, they work fine on real firearms.

              Are they the best? No. Are they good value? Sure. Do people often upgrade to better? Of course - it's an AR! People also upgrade to Troy from YHM and MI - if you want to spend over $200, you wouldn't be asking about UTG in the first place. If you want to keep it under $100, there's not much choice.

              I have an MI quad rail handguard, and it's OK, but it's not anything special. I can't really see that it adds anything the UTG wouldn't except for being made in America, and I bought mine used, so that doesn't even matter, economy-wise.

              If I were on a tight budget and had to have quad rails, I'd definitely consider the UTG. You can always upgrade later and sell the rails for a little less than you paid, and in the meantime, you'll figure out what you need or want in a handguard.
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              • #8
                Semperpluris
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 46

                Originally posted by maxicon
                The UTG rails are good for the money. Generally, people who bash them have never actually used them. They're tight and solid, and hold up well. Check the reviews from people who have them mounted. Yes, they work fine on real firearms.

                Are they the best? No. Are they good value? Sure. Do people often upgrade to better? Of course - it's an AR! People also upgrade to Troy from YHM and MI - if you want to spend over $200, you wouldn't be asking about UTG in the first place. If you want to keep it under $100, there's not much choice.

                I have an MI quad rail handguard, and it's OK, but it's not anything special. I can't really see that it adds anything the UTG wouldn't except for being made in America, and I bought mine used, so that doesn't even matter, economy-wise.

                If I were on a tight budget and had to have quad rails, I'd definitely consider the UTG. You can always upgrade later and sell the rails for a little less than you paid, and in the meantime, you'll figure out what you need or want in a handguard.
                Yeah and some people buy Lorcin and Ravens using that exact rational. I don't have to own sub-standard quality to bash them. If you are going to own Bushmaster you are not interested in bargain basement stuff to begin with. I get your point. There's a difference with Leapers/UTG stuff and American made rails, Midwest, YMH and Troy. And that difference is not just half the price. But if price if is the only thing one's interested in, then more power to you.
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                • #9
                  Jimmy Deuce
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2291

                  I personally never had one for an AR. But had a rear BUIS and a quad rail for my AK. They both did their jobs well especially fro what I paid. I think if you are a typical informal shooting type of guy/girl they will not let you down. If you are going to be running throuh a battle field or storming a bulding you may want a different brand. But I think the value of these line of products for themost part is excellent.Take a look at the reviews on the link just scroll through.
                  Cheaper Than Dirt! is America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, and we live up to that title. Expect bulk ammo deals, discounts, gun care accessories and more


                  Do not get caught up in the brand. You may want to also consider this a high quality low cost alternative. I am going to get these when/if a midlength version comes out
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                  • #10
                    5968
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 3557

                    Originally posted by maxicon
                    The UTG rails are good for the money. Generally, people who bash them have never actually used them. They're tight and solid, and hold up well. Check the reviews from people who have them mounted. Yes, they work fine on real firearms.

                    Are they the best? No. Are they good value? Sure. Do people often upgrade to better? Of course - it's an AR! People also upgrade to Troy from YHM and MI - if you want to spend over $200, you wouldn't be asking about UTG in the first place. If you want to keep it under $100, there's not much choice.

                    I have an MI quad rail handguard, and it's OK, but it's not anything special. I can't really see that it adds anything the UTG wouldn't except for being made in America, and I bought mine used, so that doesn't even matter, economy-wise.

                    If I were on a tight budget and had to have quad rails, I'd definitely consider the UTG. You can always upgrade later and sell the rails for a little less than you paid, and in the meantime, you'll figure out what you need or want in a handguard.
                    I do not own a UTG rail, but I have a friend who has one. I was honestly surprised at the quality and how solid it mounted.
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                    • #11
                      rmasold
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1079

                      +1 utg is great for the money

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                      • #12
                        Justintoxicated
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3836

                        I got a Hogue Free Float + Grip for like $65 shipped on ebay. Harder to isntal but I like the grip so far.

                        I searched and only found this one


                        I have the ruber overlayed version.

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                        • #13
                          bluthandwerk
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 247

                          I currently have a set of $12 cast off mid-length handguards on my BCM upper. Does that make the upper any worse? Nope. It shoots fine for a non-free-float system.

                          I am planning on upgrading when I get the chance (DD Omega rail), but these work and allow me to shoot my rifle.

                          Whatever works for you is what you should use.

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