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  • Bakerloo
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1698

    AR Stuff

    So nobody has anything in stock to build an AR. No complete uppers, lowers, LPKs in stock at the normal places. That's fine, I don't need another at this time, but I would, at some point like to rebuild my original RAW lower into something like an M4.

    Anyways, my questions are where are the parts made? With everything sold out, how are they staying in business? Are most things built someplace and rebranded by retailers?

    Just curious if anyone has real insight.
    ...while the buffoon in the White House prances around celebrating butt sex.
  • #2
    tabascoz28
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 3364

    I know that a lot of BCGs are built buy Toolcraft. I tried to buy just some bolts but nobody sells that. I thought I found it once on their web site but they changed it.

    I'm sure the budget ones are the first to go but there's probably some high end stuff out there. But not the Christensen carbon fiber barrels.... My friend just waited 3 months for a left handed long range, maybe everyone has production issues with covid limitations?

    At the very least, you can always take your current AR to a gunsmith and have them cut it to 14.5 and pin and weld a flash hider on it.

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    • #3
      Keoroshi
      Banned
      • Jul 2020
      • 75

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      • #4
        tradecraft
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 4620

        https://www.reddit.com/r/gundeals/ buy parts
        Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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        • #5
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19615

          Now is the time to be discerning on parts. Companies are more likely to take shortcuts in times like this and just figure "that's good enough".

          I would try to pick up good parts where you can. I recently bought a couple of CMMG lpk's. Random parts with no manufacturers name are more likely to contain crap now than 6 months ago.

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          • #6
            Bakerloo
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1698

            I didn't wait too long, I have ARs in the safe that don't get used. As I said, I was just curious. I have an original RAW that I can run 30 rd mags with no BB, no mag lock, and all of the evil features. I didn't wait too long at all.
            ...while the buffoon in the White House prances around celebrating butt sex.

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            • #7
              The War Wagon
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2011
              • 10294

              I see parts & pieces IN my LGS - maybe not enough to build a COMPLETE rifle, but I suspect a little MORE digging could find the rest.

              Honestly, one of the reasons I like hanging out here - 3 timezones away - IS y'all's marketplace. It may take a few weeks, but I suspect you could build an AR off of it with some patient searching.
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              • #8
                jorgi23
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 476

                what parts are you looking for?

                calguns and internet are full of parts.. Good luck?

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                • #9
                  tabascoz28
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 3364

                  What sucks is that there's a new law coming in 2 years that makes precursor parts an LGS transfer so there are people buying for that. Add the pandemic/election/riots so now the budget parts are sold out.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57107

                    Originally posted by tabascoz28
                    What sucks is that there's a new law coming in 2 years that makes precursor parts an LGS transfer so there are people buying for that. Add the pandemic/election/riots so now the budget parts are sold out.
                    Precursor parts are only unfinished lower receivers on an AR.
                    NO other parts are restricted by the precursor parts law.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #11
                      tabascoz28
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 3364

                      Thank you. But I guess my point is some people like me who are uninformed, might be buying bcg/parts, lower parts, springs, barrels...

                      Don't lowers have to go through a store anyway? Does that mean no 80% to your door now?
                      Last edited by tabascoz28; 09-04-2020, 10:55 AM.

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                      • #12
                        edgerly779
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 19871

                        ^^ been asleep huh. 80% lowers to your door are fine. Just not worth the effort anymore.

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                        • #13
                          JayEyeTee831
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 57

                          buy used parts on tacswap and gafs

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57107

                            Originally posted by tabascoz28
                            Thank you. But I guess my point is some people like me who are uninformed, might be buying bcg/parts, lower parts, springs, barrels...

                            Don't lowers have to go through a store anyway? Does that mean no 80% to your door now?
                            When the new law goes into effect, 80% receivers will only be able to be sold by licensed precursor part dealers.
                            They have not setup the system of who those will be, but most likely it will be gun stores.
                            It will be illegal to order one shipped directly to you.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              sirgrumps
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2494

                              Most parts have a few manufacturers than make them for several vendors/OEM companies.

                              Machining lowers & uppers from a forging or billet is pretty easy now a days with CNC machines.

                              Barrels & bolt carrier groups tend to be made by a few specialty shops, as they are much more difficult, may require special tooling or treatment.

                              Buffer tubes, sights, charging handles, etc are also pretty straight forward, but are relatively low margin, but easy. I suspect a lot of "Brands just spec it out to local machine shops.

                              hand guards, triggers, and barrels are much more intricate and are made by fewer shops.

                              You have 3 options right now.
                              1.) engage in the panic buying, get what ever part you need, when you find it and Frankenstein your next piece, with parts of unknown quality.
                              2.) Engage in the panic, buy high quality pieces, pay a substantial premium and frankenstein you piece with HIGH quality parts.
                              3.) Engage in the panic, buy a quality complete upper and a premium price.

                              or wait, if you're assuming Trump get re-elected, and do 2 or 3 listed above, when the price crashes in 9-18 months.

                              Remember in 2017-2019, the price for AR parts, upper, and complete rifles drop to levels unseen, since the Clinton Admin.

                              If you're assuming Biden is going to get elected, then engage in options 1,2, or 3, because if you wait past November, option 1,2, or 3 will just get more expensive.
                              ?The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not a ?second-class right,? subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.? ?.. "We know of no other constitutional rights that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need."
                              - Justice Clarence Thomas

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