Solano County Sheriff’s Office Seized NFA Weapon

[Widdle]

[norcalAF]

There might be 3 if you count the dog lol

He was just doing what he was trained to do!

[norcalAF]

It will be up for auction soon I imagine

[walmart_ar15]

Don't see a auto sear in it, and some folks drill a "wrong" hole near the auto sear hole then fill it with a pin to make sure the "correct" hole can never be installed. Cannot see the hammer so do not know if it has the "hook". Then there is the safety switch and sear differences.

Thus, just from the picture, SBR processing is the only issue. Now it would be interesting if he can produce a pistol lower from his house that goes with that upper. If it was being transported apart, so he could be just transporting parts if he owns the lower that goes with that upper. For all we know he could be just coming back from the gun shop with a new purchased upper and repaired lower.

But probably not true in this place. A home build 80% (ghost) without a bullet button with adjustable stock and pistol grip. Hum, what legal rifle does that go with?

[sigstroker]

This whole situation is not too hard to decipher. Beater car, suspicious looking dude with face tattoo driving. Guy might be known to police. Might have arrests for drug related offenses, previous felony convictions, etc. Maybe a driving infraction or something else out of kilter with the car to get pulled over.

I remember a police officer telling me about this mental "formula" he had for pulling people over. Nice car in good shape, he would need 2 minor or 1 major violation to pull them over. Beater car with suspicious looking person, 1 minor violation.

Either way, the stop is the foot in the door to investigate for something more substantial. Add in a "suspicious license" or a bad attitude and you are going to get the latex glove treatment.

The dogs can alert on a very, very small amount or even a remnant of the substance. All it takes is the smell, even residual odor and the dog will alert. Very plausible that at one time there were drugs in the car that were not present at the time of the search. He rolled the dice and crapped out. Too bad for him.

Or the dog can just sit there and the cop lie about it. What is the defendant going to do, put the dog on the stand and ask him if he alerted?

[RickD427]

Or the dog can just sit there and the cop lie about it. What is the defendant going to do, put the dog on the stand and ask him if he alerted?

In this case, it doesn't matter if the dog just sat there.

No need for the officer to "lie."

All of the makings of a lawful search were present before the dog even arrived on the scene.

[superhondaz50]

Don't see a auto sear in it, and some folks drill a "wrong" hole near the auto sear hole then fill it with a pin to make sure the "correct" hole can never be installed. Cannot see the hammer so do not know if it has the "hook". Then there is the safety switch and sear differences.

Thus, just from the picture, SBR processing is the only issue. Now it would be interesting if he can produce a pistol lower from his house that goes with that upper. If it was being transported apart, so he could be just transporting parts if he owns the lower that goes with that upper. For all we know he could be just coming back from the gun shop with a new purchased upper and repaired lower.

But probably not true in this place. A home build 80% (ghost) without a bullet button with adjustable stock and pistol grip. Hum, what legal rifle does that go with?

Sear is most definitely in the correct location, and you can see the top of the sear trip in the pic in post #17.

[wpage]

Since the dude was driving on a suspended lic. He was asking for problems.

One thing leads to another. The dude was more than likely on a list.

[sigstroker]

In this case, it doesn't matter if the dog just sat there.

No need for the officer to "lie."

All of the makings of a lawful search were present before the dog even arrived on the scene.

It DOES matter. The cop said he alerted. If he tells one lie on the stand, how many more lies might he tell?

[RickD427]

It DOES matter. The cop said he alerted. If he tells one lie on the stand, how many more lies might he tell?

How do you know that the officer "lied"?

And for the record, I will agree that if the officer lied, that is quite significant. But there's no evidence in this thread that the officer did lie.

A dog "alert" is kinda subjective. The dog can't offer any testimony as to what the dog perceived (although I once did have a canine that caught a burglary suspect receive a subpoena to testify at the prelim).

As previous posters have accurately pointed out, a canine "alerts" on the basis of scent, not on the presence of narcotics. If there were recently narcotics in the vehicle, then the dog is gonna "alert", even if the narcotics are not present at the moment.

But there is no need for the officer to even go there. He had everything he need for a lawful search with the canine entering into the picture.

[sigstroker]

I didn't say he lied, I said he COULD lie. And you said in this case it doesn't matter if the dog just sat there. The cop said the dog alerted. You think the dog has telepathy and alerted that way?

[B.J.F.]

Sear is most definitely in the correct location, and you can see the top of the sear trip in the pic in post #17.

[Dirk Tungsten]

Doesn't matter, to the ATF if the hole's drilled you're done.

[ohsmily]

so no drugs were found even though the dog was "alerted".....

yeah, imo the illegal search of the vehicle and any evidence found should be dismissed.

Well, your opinion is wrong. Driving on a suspended license is an arrestable offense. They can do an inventory search of the vehicle. Depending on how hidden the rifle was, the search was good to go even aside from the fact that the dog alerted.

[pacrat]

Once the deputies established that the driver was operating the vehicle on a suspended license, the vehicle became subject to an impound, and to an impound search. Whether the canine "alerted", or not, doesn't do anything to change the deputies' standing to conduct the search.

OK.

Now in real life, if suspended license is only problem. Without any mitigating suspicions on part of officer. How often does a car get towed for suspended lic?

Hell, until they got sued by LAPPL. LAPD had "policy" to not even cite illegal aliens that were operating vehicles. Without licenses, registrations, insurance or any other infractions.

I'm in no way defending the actions of this individual. IMHO the extra scrutiny the officers gave him, is likely well deserved. Yet having been on the receiving end of a couple of "fishing expeditions". I'll always remain skeptical.