Shipping ammo to yourself in CA

[cgseanp1]

[ar15barrels]

You can ship your ammo to yourself within CA with no problems.
It's only shipping from outside CA to inside CA that requires the ammo to go to a licensed ammo dealer or an exempt individual.

The fact that you owned it before the law went into effect does not matter.
The fact that it's OUTSIDE of CA is all the matters.

Same deal with magazines.
If you take a large capacity magazine out of CA, you can NOT bring it back into CA because there is no specific exemption allowing that unless you are exempt of 32310.

[Califpatriot]

If you are a California resident, penal code 30314 says you could not do this.

[cgseanp1]

You can ship your ammo to yourself within CA with no problems.
It's only shipping from outside CA to inside CA that requires the ammo to go to a licensed ammo dealer or an exempt individual.

The fact that you owned it before the law went into effect does not matter.
The fact that it's OUTSIDE of CA is all the matters.

Same deal with magazines.
If you take a large capacity magazine out of CA, you can NOT bring it back into CA because there is no specific exemption allowing that unless you are exempt of 32310.

Thanks for the info.

[Califpatriot]

You can ship your ammo to yourself within CA with no problems.
It's only shipping from outside CA to inside CA that requires the ammo to go to a licensed ammo dealer or an exempt individual.

The fact that you owned it before the law went into effect does not matter.
The fact that it's OUTSIDE of CA is all the matters.

Same deal with magazines.
If you take a large capacity magazine out of CA, you can NOT bring it back into CA because there is no specific exemption allowing that unless you are exempt of 32310.

You can take ammo out of California and then bring it back in, I believe. The application of 30314 is limited to "purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state"

[ar15barrels]

You can take ammo out of California and then bring it back in, I believe.
The application of 30314 is limited to "purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state"

Post the applicable PC where the exemption is listed.

[ar15barrels]

Relevant PC with ALL the specific exemptions:

30312.
(a) (1) Commencing January 1, 2018, the sale of ammunition by any party shall be conducted by or processed through a licensed ammunition vendor.

(2) When neither party to an ammunition sale is a licensed ammunition vendor, the seller shall deliver the ammunition to a vendor to process the transaction. The ammunition vendor shall promptly and properly deliver the ammunition to the purchaser, if the sale is not prohibited, as if the ammunition were the vendor’s own merchandise. If the ammunition vendor cannot legally deliver the ammunition to the purchaser, the vendor shall forthwith return the ammunition to the seller. The ammunition vendor may charge the purchaser an administrative fee to process the transaction, in an amount to be set by the Department of Justice, in addition to any applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to the provisions of this title.

(b) Commencing January 1, 2018, the sale, delivery, or transfer of ownership of ammunition by any party may only occur in a face-to-face transaction with the seller, deliverer, or transferor, provided, however, that ammunition may be purchased or acquired over the Internet or through other means of remote ordering if a licensed ammunition vendor initially receives the ammunition and processes the transaction in compliance with this section and Article 3 (commencing with Section 30342) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4 of this part.

(c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) shall not apply to the sale, delivery, or transfer of ammunition to any of the following:

(1) An authorized law enforcement representative of a city, county, city and county, or state or federal government, if the sale, delivery, or transfer is for exclusive use by that government agency and, prior to the sale, delivery, or transfer of the ammunition, written authorization from the head of the agency employing the purchaser or transferee is obtained, identifying the employee as an individual authorized to conduct the transaction, and authorizing the transaction for the exclusive use of the agency employing the individual.

(2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer’s duties.

(3) An importer or manufacturer of ammunition or firearms who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

(4) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6 of this title.

(5) A person whose licensed premises are outside this state and who is licensed as a dealer or collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

(6) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.

(7) An ammunition vendor.

(8) A consultant-evaluator.

(9) A person who purchases or receives ammunition at a target facility holding a business or other regulatory license, provided that the ammunition is at all times kept within the facility’s premises.

(10) A person who purchases or receives ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.

(11) A person enrolled in the basic training academy for peace officers or any other course certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, an instructor of the academy or course, or a staff member of the academy or entity providing the course, who is purchasing the ammunition for the purpose of participation or use in the course.

(d) A violation of this section is a misdemeanor.

30314.
(a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:

(1) An ammunition vendor.

(2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer’s duties.

(3) An importer or manufacturer of ammunition or firearms who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

(4) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.

(5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.

(6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.

(c) A violation of this section is an infraction for any first time offense, and either an infraction or a misdemeanor for any subsequent offense.

30314 (b) (6) is the easiest exemption as long as you have a spouse, domestic partner or immediate family member.

[SkyHawk]

a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state

That means if you obtained it in CA, you can leave and bring it back any way you want. The entire PC 30314 and it's exemptions only applies to ammo obtained outside CA.

If you obtained the ammo outside CA, it is subject to the PC.

[ar15barrels]

That means if you obtained it in CA, you can leave and bring it back any way you want. The entire PC 30314 and it's exemptions only applies to ammo obtained outside CA.

If you obtained the ammo outside CA, it is subject to the PC.

"Or otherwise" can be stretched to mean anything they want.

Like if you took it out of state, that's otherwise BECAUSE it's out of state!

Gotta love vague laws.
They could specifically have spelled out an exemption (7) for ammo purchased within CA and then transported out of state.
They didn't.

[SkyHawk]

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Gotta love vague laws.
They could specifically have spelled out an exemption (7) for ammo purchased within CA and then transported out of state.
They didn't.

Amen - who the H knows anymore. We have imbeciles making laws

[Califpatriot]

30312 does not govern you bringing in your own ammo one way or another. 30314 governs non exempt California residents transporting ammo into the state which they obtained outside the state. That's it. If something is not prohibited, it is allowed. I can't and am not going to try to prove a negative.

[BrassCase]

Amen - who the H knows anymore. We have imbeciles making laws

And they are just getting warmed up