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  • tabascoz28
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 3364

    Brass Hitting Turret Long Action 700 and Fabricating a Solution

    Not really gunsmithing, more like jerry rigging cause I'm cheap. Discovered empty shell hits the turret and goes back in to the action! Options were to move the scope (after painstaking installation with loctite), putting foam on the turret, or my plan. Create a cheap deflector resting on the rail to block the turret from being hit and deflecting the round out reliably. I got the idea when someone said that they were looking for a BUIS that wouldn't fall apart and I thought, hmm, I have a POS BUIS that I can cut up.

    Problem: Happens 75 percent of the time when cycling the action at a normal speed. Only works well when I extract at a snails pace.
    Plan: Grind down the white parts, cut and bend a thin piece of metal that mounts on the side. Hope the round clears the opening after all this...


    Last edited by tabascoz28; 07-22-2021, 7:21 PM.
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    tabascoz28
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 3364

    Boy I really hope it clears the action... Found a piece of aluminum, not cheap enough to use a soda can.
    Last edited by tabascoz28; 07-22-2021, 7:21 PM.

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    • #3
      Romeo_alpha01
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 2029

      Can’t wait to see the finished product!

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        beanz2
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 12032

        Hope that was not an original Colt triangle handguard you sacrificed


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          tabascoz28
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 3364

          PSA, thought about selling it, not worth the trouble.

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          • #6
            damon1272
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4857

            A deflector is your beat bet. Really not a fan of big knobs. I have this same issue on my Tikka. A real PITA.

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              tabascoz28
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 3364

              I think I saw one for ARs but it might have been too big. That knob makes the .338LM case look small... Got distracted with ordering components, back to the grind stone.

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                tabascoz28
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 3364

                Glad I fitted things before starting the deflector shield part. Turns out that all it needed was that little protrusion from the pic clamp to bump the shell a little off kilter before moving on to the knob. Problem solved, not beautiful but simple. Cases don't get dinged any more either, I was getting flat parts and almost puncture points because the knobs had prominent protrusions for positive and tactile finger grasping.

                Last edited by tabascoz28; 07-22-2021, 7:21 PM.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57169

                  Originally posted by tabascoz28
                  Not really gunsmithing, more like jerry rigging cause I'm cheap. Discovered empty shell hits the turret and goes back in to the action!
                  If the brass is hitting the scope turret and flipping back into the ejection port, either your stock's length of pull is too short and therefore the scope is sitting too far forward on the gun OR your ejector angle is wrong due to a nonstandard extractor such as happens on a factory 700 bolt that has been converted to a Sako or Mini16 extractor.
                  The solution for a converted factory 700 bolt is to buy a custom made bolt from PTG with the correct geometry between extractor and ejector so that the cases don't eject so high.
                  Randall Rausch

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                    tabascoz28
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 3364

                    Ah, thank you. My first 700\clone so I had no idea. It has double ejectors. Not sure if it has m16 extractors too. I think I'll leave it the way it is now cause it works. Brass is now not dinged and is reliably stripped slow or fast.

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                    • #11
                      ACfixer
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 6053

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      If the brass is hitting the scope turret and flipping back into the ejection port, either your stock's length of pull is too short and therefore the scope is sitting too far forward on the gun OR your ejector angle is wrong due to a nonstandard extractor such as happens on a factory 700 bolt that has been converted to a Sako or Mini16 extractor.
                      The solution for a converted factory 700 bolt is to buy a custom made bolt from PTG with the correct geometry between extractor and ejector so that the cases don't eject so high.
                      Winner. But it appears the OP would rather fabricate some Rube Goldberg doohickey than do any gunsmithing.

                      Seriously tabascoz28, I know you've lock-tited the stuff together but you really should have mocked it up and run the action a few times right? My buddy was having a similar issue and it boiled down to scope position in his case. Moving it 1/4" made all the difference. It still hits the turret, but at least it flicks out of the way.
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                        tabascoz28
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 3364

                        Lesson learned, I have a Savage 10, TC Compass, AR10, none have had this issue before. Agreed, all it took was a small piece of metal or 1/4" movement. Will do that for the next rifle I get or set up.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57169

                          Originally posted by tabascoz28
                          Lesson learned, I have a Savage 10, TC Compass, AR10, none have had this issue before. Agreed, all it took was a small piece of metal or 1/4" movement. Will do that for the next rifle I get or set up.
                          Scope position is secondary to length-of-pull.
                          Get your length-of-pull correct first.
                          Then get your cheekrest height correct so you don't have to lift your head to see through the scope.
                          Then mount the scope for correct natural point of aim.

                          When done this way, you won't have ejected cases hitting the turret.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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