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  • sindominator
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 421

    Possible stolen Fire Arms.

    Hi everybody

    I have a question;

    I am being offered a Mossberg AG 500 in exchange for a home networking gig. The folks say that the shotgun belongs to their son who now lives in Italy. Is there a way or a website where you can check a firearms model and serial number? to see if its a legit firearm or possible dirty (stolen).

    I have the serial number with me.

    thanks for your help.

    gus
  • #2
    CSDGuy
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 3763

    Well, you could call the local Sheriff's office or the ATF and ask them to do a "Check Stolen". They might not tell you... but if suddenly there's activity over at "their" place...

    Firearms that are reported stolen are supposed to be listed in the AFS (if it's here in California) and in the NCIC databases. IIRC there's no way for regular folks to access either. It's got to be through a LE agency.
    Last edited by CSDGuy; 05-16-2009, 3:32 PM.

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    • #3
      WokMaster1
      Part time Emperor
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2006
      • 5436

      Go thru a PPT at an FFL. It'll come up. If he said, just take it, no need for an FFL, etc, runnnnnnn.
      "Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)

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      • #4
        CSDGuy
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 3763

        Originally posted by WokMaster1
        Go thru a PPT at an FFL. It'll come up. If he said, just take it, no need for an FFL, etc, runnnnnnn.
        +1!!!!!!!

        If it's not an Interfamilial transfer or a C&R, go through an FFL. If you're suspicious about those at all.. go through the dealer. If they don't want to do that... run away!

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        • #5
          bohoki
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 20825

          a ppt i dont think the dros submits any firearm identification so it wont be checked or protect you other than to have a good faith papertrail

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          • #6
            Proph3t
            Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 120

            Originally posted by bohoki
            a ppt i dont think the dros submits any firearm identification so it wont be checked or protect you other than to have a good faith papertrail
            True that...

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            • #7
              Leon DeGamme
              Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 250

              So, how can you protect yourself from buying a stolen firearm in a PPT? I really thought transfering in via FFL would take care of that.

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              • #8
                paul0660
                In Memoriam
                • Jul 2007
                • 15669

                Call your local LEO. If it has been reported stolen they will have it listed by type and Serial #. I have done it, and it takes seconds. LEO dispatchers usually have the database at their fingertips, so that firearms found in the field can be checked immediately.
                *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                • #9
                  Jeff P
                  Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 388

                  If you a wary of the person selling the firearm don’t move forward with the purchase. The fire arm belongs to there son. How are you going to complete the FFl paperwork for the sale? And perhaps pay with a USPS money order by mail.
                  Very interesting!!
                  Uhh.ohh, wifes home gotta go....

                  Jeff P

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                  • #10
                    JDay
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19393

                    Son can give it to a parent without going through an ffl.
                    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                    • #11
                      joepamjohn
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2709

                      PPT and DROs on long guns only check out the worthiness of the buyer, not the leagality of the gun. Thats why you can dros multiple long guns on one 4473 (dros)
                      "You can't handle the truth"

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                      • #12
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by joepamjohn
                        PPT and DROs on long guns only check out the worthiness of the buyer, not the leagality of the gun. Thats why you can dros multiple long guns on one 4473 (dros)
                        The 4473 is a federal form, the DROS is state. The 4473 does contain the make, model and serial of all firearms transfered.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #13
                          Leon DeGamme
                          Member
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 250

                          Originally posted by JDay
                          The 4473 is a federal form, the DROS is state. The 4473 does contain the make, model and serial of all firearms transfered.
                          So, is there some kind of stolen property check done when PPT a firearm?

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                          • #14
                            dwtt
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7470

                            Originally posted by Leon DeGamme
                            So, is there some kind of stolen property check done when PPT a firearm?
                            No, there isn't. The CA PPT process with the waiting period is to see if the buyer is prohibited from owning a firearm. To see if the gun is stolen, like the title of this thread says, is to contact the police and have them see if it was reported stolen. In this modern age of computers and wireless communications, that's not difficult for them to do.

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                            • #15
                              JohnBrian
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1203

                              Originally posted by paul0660
                              Call your local LEO. If it has been reported stolen they will have it listed by type and Serial #. I have done it, and it takes seconds. LEO dispatchers usually have the database at their fingertips, so that firearms found in the field can be checked immediately.
                              Done this many times. Fortunatly, I've never had one come back as stolen.

                              FYI, don't call 911 & ask them to run the number!
                              THIS SPACE FOR RENT

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