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  • krb
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 1089

    How much target ammo vs HD ammo?

    Hi. Over the years I've stocked up on a bunch of target/range ammo. It's only more recently I've been picking up defensive ammo. I have defensive ammo but the vast majority of what I own is target (FMJ) obviously because of the cost.

    Question - what is everyone's ratio? Do you largely stack up on target for practice and just have a few hundred rounds of self defense? Or is it more evenly split? It's really expensive (and I mean before this craziness) so my feeling so far has been that if I really have to go through more than a few hundred rounds of defensive ammo that's a really bad place to be but at that point I should have plenty of target ammo. And in terms of target ammo going through walls and everything else ... well if I've already run out of defensive ammo I have a lot more to worry about.

    Wondering if I should be stacking self defense rounds deeper or if a few hundred for calibers I have is sufficient and then rely on FMJ if need be. I just don't like the idea of stacking deep such expensive ammo if the likelihood of needing it is small and if I have enough FMJ.

    Thanks! Just wondering everyone's thoughts.
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    Snoopy47
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3885

    Basically, I bought one box of defensive. Filled the home defense gun, and spare mags that are in the quick access safe with it and called it a day.

    As a reloader, I have the capacity to manufacture high energy ammo (minus expanding projectiles) if the need arises.

    Then, where shortfalls of "defensive" pistol ammo would even remotely be an issue will be made up with .308 rifle ammo taking the brunt of stand off defensive capabilities.
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    • #3
      golfish
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2013
      • 10123

      I think it's a good idea to practice with the ammo that you plan to use for HD so keep that in mind when your buying and at the range. As far as how much, man that's all up to you.
      I've got 9x50 cal ammo cans full of factory ammo and then there's all my reloads.
      (I hoard for my son, grandson and future grandsons) I figure it might come in handy for them in the years to come.

      I'm such a lousy shot that I just use a shotgun with some #1 buck for HD.
      It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
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      • #4
        Powder_Keg
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2013
        • 2203

        I don’t practice with my HD ammo, too expensive. I did do a test run of my HD ammo thru my HD guns to make sure the guns/ammo/mags functioned without issue. In total, I probably have 350 rounds of HD handgun ammo, some loaded in mags, the rest on a shelf, 9mm and 45 ACP.

        Shotgun ammo is way less expensive. If you don’t have a HD shotgun, I would suggest buying one and getting some ammo for it instead of loading up on a lot of HD handgun ammo. I think a balance of both is a good approach. YMMV

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        • #5
          L84CABO
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2009
          • 8732

          Below is the minimum for defensive ammo. You can never have too much. And if things really go south it can always be used to barter/trade. This is just my opinion. YMMV.

          1000 rounds Rifle
          500-1000 pistol
          500 00 Buck
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          • #6
            rodralig
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2016
            • 4262

            Less of a ratio with my FMJ rounds, more of a number

            9 = 1K
            45 = 500
            223 = 500
            308 = 200
            12 = 200


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            Last edited by rodralig; 06-25-2020, 9:58 PM. Reason: Forgot about the 308

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            • #7
              3006
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 939

              Ball ammo works for defense most of it tumbles.

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              • #8
                P5Ret
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2010
                • 6382

                If things go really bad, there is nothing wrong with range ammo being defensive ammo.

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                • #9
                  smupser
                  Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 239

                  Originally posted by P5Ret
                  If things go really bad, there is nothing wrong with range ammo being defensive ammo.

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                  • #10
                    krb
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1089

                    Originally posted by Snoopy47
                    Basically, I bought one box of defensive. Filled the home defense gun, and spare mags that are in the quick access safe with it and called it a day.

                    As a reloader, I have the capacity to manufacture high energy ammo (minus expanding projectiles) if the need arises.

                    Then, where shortfalls of "defensive" pistol ammo would even remotely be an issue will be made up with .308 rifle ammo taking the brunt of stand off defensive capabilities.
                    Thank you! That was exactly my thought process minus the reloading. I just bought some honey badger from black hills. Looks cool!

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                    • #11
                      krb
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 1089

                      Originally posted by golfish
                      I think it's a good idea to practice with the ammo that you plan to use for HD so keep that in mind when your buying and at the range. As far as how much, man that's all up to you.
                      I've got 9x50 cal ammo cans full of factory ammo and then there's all my reloads.
                      (I hoard for my son, grandson and future grandsons) I figure it might come in handy for them in the years to come.

                      I'm such a lousy shot that I just use a shotgun with some #1 buck for HD.
                      Thank you! Intermittently I shoot anmagazine of HD to make myself happy that it cycles correctly but not too often because of the price.

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                      • #12
                        krb
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 1089

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                        • #13
                          krb
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1089

                          Originally posted by rodralig
                          Less of a ratio with my FMJ rounds, more of a number

                          9 = 1K
                          45 = 500
                          223 = 500
                          308 = 200
                          12 = 200


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                          • #14
                            Rich1911
                            Member
                            • May 2020
                            • 419

                            Similar to what someone already said, I have two boxes of JHPs--one for each caliber pistol. The magazines in the quick access safe are loaded with them. If for whatever reason those run out, I have the FMJs put away. So for ratio, i dont know, 1 box of JHP to every 10 boxes of FMJ.

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                            • #15
                              Wordupmybrotha
                              From anotha motha
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 6965

                              100 rounds of 9mm
                              20 rounds of 45acp
                              20 rounds of 38 spl

                              I ran couple of mags/cylinders for function test but I don't practice with them. Don't see why I need to practice with them. I didn't notice any significant difference in recoil between FMJ and HP.

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