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  • vf111
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 2616

    De-register Registered Assault Weapon (RAW)

    I have a buyer (he's in Nevada) for one of my RAW's....do I just simply write a letter to DOJ stating "the gun is no longer in CA please de-register it"?
  • #2
    norcalAF
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2012
    • 1654

    No matter what you do, you will get a knock during the great round up.

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    • #3
      tonyxcom
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2011
      • 6397

      I wouldn't bother. Nevada wont care. You have to take it to his FFL if you can't find an FFL here that has the appropriate assault weapons permit (most do not).

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      • #4
        12pewpew
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2019
        • 1311

        Just report it stolen then your hands are clean of it.

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19143

          Crime

          Originally posted by 12pewpew
          Just report it stolen then your hands are clean of it.
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            SoldierLife7
            Joe Exotic For President
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2013
            • 2420

            "If the characteristics that make my firearm a category 3 assault weapon are removed, can I cancel the registration? Can I sell it as regular (non-assault weapon) firearm?

            Yes. If the defining characteristics establishing a firearm as a category 3 assault weapon are removed, it is no longer an assault weapon and the registration may be canceled. However, once the registration is canceled, you can never replace the characteristic(s) that make it an assault weapon, or you will be in possession of an illegal weapon. To cancel an assault weapon registration, contact DOJ at (916) 227-2153. Once the registration has been canceled, the firearm can be sold or transferred like any other firearm (non-assault weapon)."

            Assault Weapons and .50 BMG Quick Links to Topics General FAQs “Other” Assault Weapons Military Assault Weapons Bullet Button Assault Weapons General FAQs What is considered an assault weapon under California law? What are AK and AR-15 series weapons? What is considered a .50 BMG rifle under California law? Can assault weapons and .50 BMG rifles still be registered? I already paid the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) fee and went through a DOJ record check when I purchased the firearm. Does that satisfy the registration requirement?

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            • #7
              tonyxcom
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2011
              • 6397

              you only need to reconfigure and cancel registration (de-register) if you are planning on selling it in state.

              Out of state - they don't care about registration status in CA. You just need to transport/export the AW in a legal manner.

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              • #8
                beanz2
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 12032

                Originally posted by 12pewpew
                Just report it stolen then your hands are clean of it.
                And when the Nevada buyer wants to sell it down the road, what happens to him?


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                • #9
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 12153

                  Once registered, always registered.

                  And that's you: they could not care less about registering the gun.
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #10
                    norcalAF
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1654

                    Originally posted by The Gleam
                    Once registered, always registered.

                    And that's you: they could not care less about registering the gun.
                    Truly what "ammo background checks" are all about I assume.

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                    • #11
                      The Gleam
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 12153

                      Originally posted by norcalAF
                      Truly what "ammo background checks" are all about I assume.
                      Exactly; because tell me how they would track ammo otherwise, used or not.

                      (And no, microstamping does not exist in our consumer corporeal world yet no matter how much Mikhail Fuerer wishes it. )
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                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                      • #12
                        loademup
                        Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 433

                        Originally posted by vf111
                        I have a buyer (he's in Nevada) for one of my RAW's....do I just simply write a letter to DOJ stating "the gun is no longer in CA please de-register it"?
                        When my two RAWs were sold out of state, I filled out a California DOJ form "Notice of No Longer In Possession". That seemed to "officially" initiate the de-registration of the rifles from under my name. The form is available as a PDF download. Just search for "DOJ Notice of No Longer In Possession". You will need information about who you transferred the rifle to and the transaction. There is information on the form about where to mail it to.

                        The DOJ will send you something by mail if the rifle has been de-registered.
                        Last edited by loademup; 06-24-2020, 3:47 PM.

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                        • #13
                          SVT-40
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 12894

                          Originally posted by loademup
                          When my two RAWs were sold out of state, I filled out a California DOJ form "Notice of No Longer In Possession". That seemed to "officially" initiate the de-registration of the rifles from under my name. The form is available as a PDF download. Just search for "DOJ Notice of No Longer In Possession". You will need information about who you transferred the rifle to and the transaction. There is information on the form about where to mail it to.

                          The DOJ will send you something by mail if the rifle has been de-registered.
                          Nothing is ever "deregistered". The NLIP form only adds the information you provided to the listing for that firearms serial number.

                          All your information is still there. Consider it a historical list of owners.
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                          • #14
                            BigPimping
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 21436

                            Better off just keeping it.
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                            • #15
                              loademup
                              Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 433

                              Originally posted by SVT-40
                              Nothing is ever "deregistered". The NLIP form only adds the information you provided to the listing for that firearms serial number.

                              All your information is still there. Consider it a historical list of owners.
                              Thanks for clarifying.

                              So the "Notice of No Longer in Possession" only declares you are no longer in possession of the firearm due to California legal methods of transfer. Still maybe something OP may want to do in case the buyer or some other person in the future does something bad with it while in their possession.

                              What you said brings a different case about "de-registering" to my mind: The California DOJ talks about "cancelling registration" for assault weapons previously registered under Category 3 banned features if these features are removed (as in converting the rifle to featureless). Sounds like even in this case, we shouldn't have any assumptions that "de-registration" means removal of data collected by the state...just updated with any new information given.

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