922r and end users

[-hanko]

Interesting. When I built a couple of AK's a few years ago, I went out of my way to get US made parts to comply with 922r. I was concerned that some of the parts had no markings on them so how could I convince somebody that they were made in the USA. It's been awhile since I thought about this and can't remember details about 922r or which parts were of concern.

Thanks for the info. I can rest a little easier now.

If you're charged with something, at least so far in America, it's on the prosecution to prove you're guilty...it's definitely not on you to prove parts were made in the USA.

And you're welcome for the info.

FFTactical is generating business with semi-scare tactics...bastages.

[bohoki]

If you're charged with something, at least so far in America, it's on the prosecution to prove you're guilty...it's definitely not on you to prove parts were made in the USA.

And you're welcome for the info.

FFTactical is generating business with semi-scare tactics...bastages.

and they have to prove that you are the one that assembled it

[L84CABO]

A link to one letter... ATF 922(r) letter from the FAL Files

Snippets I found interesting...

922(r) forbids manufacturing a firearm, but it does not prohibit possession of an assembled weapon without the required number of U.S. parts.

Removing parts for routine cleaning and maintenance and reassembling the weapon is not prohibited...you tell me the your definition of maintenance.

Since identifying the parts by part number and/or country of origin is not required, imo all bets are off. OT, DSA was selling what they called U.S. fire control parts, basically everything from trigger to firing pin. A guy on the FAL Files bought a few. Turns out he was a university prof in materials science at a very good engineering school. His analyses indicated DSA's parts had an identical material alloy to Imbel parts. Deny, deny, deny from DSA, but they stopped selling the parts.

Government also noted they really had no processes in place to verify U.S. or foreign parts manufacture.

The guy who posted that letter says this...

First, there it is in black and white that 922r applies to assembly, not mere possession, and that routine mainenance, inserting and removing magazines, et cetera, is NOT assembly for 922r purposes.

The part I would be concerned about is what exactly constitutes assembly? Is that strictly the corporate manufacturer or if I, the end consumer, buy the gun and decide to start swapping out parts, does the act of doing so constitute "assembly?"

Note too that the letters I've seen have been specifically related to consumers modifying the Benelli m4 and they were more recent than 2009. And in those letters it sure seemed like the ATF regarded 922R as relevant.

But again, I'm just a guy on the internet speculating. In 10 minutes one could write a letter to the ATF and get a real answer to this question.

[Quickdraw559]

How would the ATF determine the origin of unmarked, unserialized firearm parts? I don’t think they can.

[-hanko]

...and you are correct, and wherever they're from, they're legal to possess.