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  • syntaxerror
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 760

    T.Rex Arms - Lucas Botkin

    What's your thoughts on T.Rex Arms CEO, Lucas Botkin? I recently came across their YouTube channel and they seem...Cool...More specifically, Lucas Botkin. What's this guy's quals? He doesn't come off as professional like the other actual professionals he has featured on some of his videos.
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  • #2
    Scope2x
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 510

    Just a shooter and a good one at that. Flat out say he won’t tech you “tactics” but he’ll show you how to manipulate a trigger.

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    • #3
      dousan
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1291

      There's a lot of hate on him

      He does teach mil/police but shooting techniques not tactics

      He also works politically with 2a rights and that fight as well.

      Personally, i wish i had his budget, guns and range

      I find most people hate on him being a civ with the good stuff they wish they had. Jealousy mostly.

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      • #4
        syntaxerror
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 760

        Originally posted by dousan
        There's a lot of hate on him

        He does teach mil/police but shooting techniques not tactics

        He also works politically with 2a rights and that fight as well.

        Personally, i wish i had his budget, guns and range

        I find most people hate on him being a civ with the good stuff they wish they had. Jealousy mostly.
        I think most of the hate he gets is because of how he comes off overall. Besides dressing up like a teir 1 operator, how can a guy with literally no military or law enforcement experience be qualified to teach military and law enforcement personnel who already get top quality training and can most likely get additional and more advanced training for free from their respective agencies? A lot of these people in this line of work are more critical of people, especially when it comes to training. That's why I think he gets hate.
        Last edited by syntaxerror; 05-26-2020, 3:06 PM.
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        • #5
          dousan
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1291

          Seems (seems from what ive seen) hes training shooting techniques, not room clearing

          Who cares how one dresses, this is America, right?

          The officers ive met, are paying for quality training on their own.
          Agencies dont pay for ish. And the training at academy isnt top notch. This is what ive been told by guys ive taken classes with and friends who are LE.

          Also if Jj racaza teaches "tier 1" dudes youd be against that too?
          Good shooters are good shooters. Spread the knowledge

          I dont see any issue with that.

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          • #6
            Triple765
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2018
            • 691

            Originally posted by syntaxerror
            I think most of the hate he gets is because of how he comes off overall. Besides dressing up like a teir 1 operator, how can a guy with literally no military or law enforcement experience be qualified to teach military and law enforcement personnel who already get top quality training and can most likely get additional and more advanced training for free from their respective agencies? A lot of these people in this line of work are more critical of people, especially when it comes to training. That's why I think he gets hate.
            Hmm. Well, as a poster before me mentioned, he doesn't teach tactics. He teaches shooting & appears to be really good at it. I greatly appreciate him bringing a 2A absolutist attitude to the mainstream. Body armor, night vision, red dots, etc. shouldn't be seen as 'tier 1 op.'/military & police only gear.
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            • #7
              Triple765
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2018
              • 691

              Originally posted by dousan

              Also if Jj racaza teaches "tier 1" dudes youd be against that too?
              Good shooters are good shooters. Spread the knowledge
              Heh. I was going to bring up Jj & other competition shooters too.
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              • #8
                Master_Prestige
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2019
                • 1016

                Originally posted by Triple765
                Heh. I was going to bring up Jj & other competition shooters too.
                Taran Testicle comes to mind. I mean Tactical.

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                • #9
                  Limeman
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 839

                  If these top-tier operators/LEO/SWAT teams, etc., have access to all the training they need, and can go to anyone for said training, then why are they seeking Lucas out and paying for his training? His clear expertise in weapons manipulation, trigger control, and body/weapon mechanics has him sought out by these top teams to take their expertise to higher levels. Not too hard to understand.

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                  • #10
                    deckhandmike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 8325

                    I’d never been muzzle swept so many times at the range. The culprit? The SWAT team. They put the “special” in training. So just because you get paid to do something doesn’t make you good at it.

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                    • #11
                      Tere_Hanges
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6268

                      He's a dork and social media whore like garandthumb, colion, and taran. But seems like he has good intentions and is a legit 2A supporter.

                      I guess his father is a bit of a nutjob.

                      Cant really fault anyone for making money off their own personal brand. Thats America. Personally, I prefer Safariland holsters over his.

                      I just cant respect metrosexual gear queers like garandthumb, colion, and botkin. Theres just something super dorky and childish about them that distracts from their message.
                      Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 05-26-2020, 3:43 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Daze
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 644

                        Opinions will vary

                        He is a good shooter and has spent a good amount of time shooting. He gets the hate, because his skills are taught through a good amount of personnel experience rather than time in LE or Mil. Some of the best shooters I know are people that took the time , money and passion of what they love doing to the next level/levels. Many could run circles around many of my LEO/Mil friends when it comes to quick accurate gun work.

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                        • #13
                          syntaxerror
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 760

                          Originally posted by dousan
                          Seems (seems from what ive seen) hes training shooting techniques, not room clearing

                          Who cares how one dresses, this is America, right?

                          The officers ive met, are paying for quality training on their own.
                          Agencies dont pay for ish. And the training at academy isnt top notch. This is what ive been told by guys ive taken classes with and friends who are LE.

                          Also if Jj racaza teaches "tier 1" dudes youd be against that too?
                          Good shooters are good shooters. Spread the knowledge

                          I dont see any issue with that.

                          Agency budgets vary. Luckily for me, If I wanted training on non-lethal weapons, rifles, and other courses, I can sign up for it and not pay. This can be a problem for smaller agencies. I never said I was against guys like Lucas teaching military and LEO personnel in general. I was asking what his quals are and wondering why he gets the hate he gets.
                          ***PSA: Don't be that guy and post "Contact me, I'm interested". Dummy, YOU'RE the one who's interested. YOU contact the seller! ***

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                          • #14
                            HAVOC5150
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1667

                            I know on our SWAT team there are two guys that have taken training outside of what the agency offers. I as a Correctional Officer have taken more firearms training than most people on the patrol side of the house. My best friend is on the SWAT team, he and I shoot a lot more than any other person in the agency. Mostly because we are “gun guys” and I have access to 700 acres to shoot on 10 minutes from his house. I like Lucas, he’s a great shooter and his movement and trigger control amazes me. He is also able to articulate what he’s doing. If you have the money, time and place to run nods, lasers etc, more power to you. I can learn something from just about anyone, whether good or bad that’s a different story.

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                            • #15
                              syntaxerror
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 760

                              Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                              He's a dork and social media whore like garandthumb, colion, and taran. But seems like he has good intentions and is a legit 2A supporter.

                              I guess his father is a bit of a nutjob.

                              Cant really fault anyone for making money off their own personal brand. Thats America. Personally, I prefer Safariland holsters over his.

                              I just have a hardtime respecting metrosexual gear queers like garandthumb, colion, and botkin. Theres just something super dorky and childish about them that distracts from their message.
                              I think this is what sums it up. I think people would respect Garandthumb more just because he actually has field experience compared to the others. Colion isn't bad either. I just find Botkin less tolerable.
                              ***PSA: Don't be that guy and post "Contact me, I'm interested". Dummy, YOU'RE the one who's interested. YOU contact the seller! ***

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