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  • DennisCA
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 4046

    Gun Question

    (This has probably been discussed before but I haven't had any luck finding it)

    My son (who is over 21) is buying a rifle but has a small apartment and wants me to keep at my place. I've read and re-read the CA laws but I am still fuzzy.
    (Of course they are they are written by lawyers and politicians!)

    I thought I read where you have to notify the CA DOJ but again still not clear on the subject. Can someone provide clarification?

    Many thanks - Hope you are all well and safe.
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.
  • #2
    Snoopy47
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3883

    I personally wouldn't notify the DOJ of anything. Ideally, maybe he buys YOU the rifle, YOU register it, YOU store it, and YOU give it back to him when he has a home he's willing to keep it with him
    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      You cannot have access. He must lock it so no one but him has access. Lots of posts on this. He should buy a small safe and lock it at home.

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      • #4
        Jeepergeo
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 3506

        Originally posted by DennisCA
        (This has probably been discussed before but I haven't had any luck finding it)

        My son (who is over 21) is buying a rifle but has a small apartment and wants me to keep at my place. I've read and re-read the CA laws but I am still fuzzy.
        (Of course they are they are written by lawyers and politicians!)

        I thought I read where you have to notify the CA DOJ but again still not clear on the subject. Can someone provide clarification?

        Many thanks - Hope you are all well and safe.
        Jeeze, how big of a gun is he buying?
        Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
        Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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        • #5
          Garv
          RSG Minion, Senior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2014
          • 9035

          Have him get a small Stack-On locker.
          Originally posted by Kestryll:
          It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by edgerly779
            You cannot have access. He must lock it so no one but him has access. Lots of posts on this. He should buy a small safe and lock it at home.
            CA laws changed on 01-01-2020...

            In addition to the person storing the firearms not having access to them [PC 27883(f)], there must be written documentation for the storage [PC 27883(i)] and if the firearm is stored there for more than 120 days, then it's considered an illegal transfer [PC 27883(g)].

            In order to legally store it there for more than 120 days, the firearm must be transferred to the person storing the firearm through a CA FFL dealer. [PC 27545]



            Penal Code 27883
            Section 27545 does not apply to the loan of a firearm provided all of the following requirements are met:
            (a) The firearm being loaned is registered to the person making the loan pursuant to Section 11106.
            (b) The firearm being loaned is stored in the receiver’s place of residence or in an enclosed structure on the receiver’s private property, which is not zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial activity.
            (c) The firearm at all times stays within the receiver’s place of residence or in an enclosed structure on the receiver’s private property, which is not zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial activity.
            (d) The individual receiving the firearm is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
            (e) The individual receiving the firearm is 18 years of age or older.
            (f) One of the following applies:
            (1) The firearm is maintained within a locked container.
            (2) The firearm is disabled by a firearm safety device.
            (3) The firearm is maintained within a locked gun safe.
            (4) The firearm is locked with a locking device, as defined in Section 16860, which has rendered the firearm inoperable.
            (g) The loan does not exceed 120 days in duration.
            (h) The loan is made without consideration.
            (i) There is a written document in a format prescribed by the Department of Justice that explains the obligations imposed by this section that is signed by both the party loaning the firearm for storage and the person receiving the firearm.
            (j) Both parties to the loan have signed copies of the written document required by subdivision (i).
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            • #7
              BigPimping
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2010
              • 21458

              You are not an FFL. You cannot store it for him. Don't be the one who does something illegal.
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