Definition of locked?

[One in the pipe]

If this has been answered before, please point me to that thread. I couldn't find it.

What's the California definition of a locked container?

If I have a legal California gun safe and it's closed and locked with the key still in the lock, is that legal?

(I do have teenagers who know how to handled guns.)

[hermosabeach]

Nope

It’s not clearly defined - thankfully

The lock is spelled out - key or combo. Zip tie is not a lock

If it’s not a raw, and you are transporting directly to/ from range, any bag that seals and can be locked works

Center console and glove box are excluded


Ca storage laws for people getting unauthorized access to guns is the code section you probably are interested in/ apply to your question

If the safe is locked or not- if minors get unauthorized access- that is the issue
See below- if you leave it unlocked- key in- door removed- the kids can get access...

Minors use guns to defend homes and are not prosecuted as it is a legal use of force.

[Preston-CLB]

Locked? Yes. Secure? No.

Anyone could walk up, open the door and retrieve a weapon.

Legal to do this? I don't know, but if something happened you will be in a legal pickle for negligently allowing access to an unsecured weapon.
-P

[hermosabeach]

Criminal Storage
“Criminal storage of firearm of the first degree” – Keeping any loaded firearm within any premises that are under your custody or control and you know or reasonably should know that a child (any person under 18) is likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the child’s parent or legal guardian and the child obtains access to the firearm

[Librarian]

See also my old post, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3&postcount=22

[One in the pipe]

Thank you all for the responses and reference.

[Regular guy]

If this has been answered before, please point me to that thread. I couldn't find it.

What's the California definition of a locked container?

If I have a legal California gun safe and it's closed and locked with the key still in the lock, is that legal?

(I do have teenagers who know how to handled guns.)

I believe if you leave a key in the lock it is no longer locked by the legal definition as turning the key becomes akin to turning a knob or pressing a button to open a container. Anyone can do it at any time. If something were to happen with one of your guns and law enforcement was made aware that the key is always in the safe you would probably be exposed legally.