Just recently moved to CA need help with laws.

[Buschang98]

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[SkyHawk]

They have to be serialized, they have to be registered, and if semi auto they have to be fixed mag so the mag cannot be removed unless the action is disassembled.

You will need to apply to Ca DOJ for serial numbers, which will also serve to register them to you. PC29180(e)

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=29180.

29180.
(a) For purposes of this chapter, “manufacturing” or “assembling” a firearm means to fabricate or construct a firearm, or to fit together the component parts of a firearm to construct a firearm.
(b) Commencing July 1, 2018, prior to manufacturing or assembling a firearm, a person manufacturing or assembling the firearm shall do all of the following:
(1) Apply to the Department of Justice for a unique serial number or other mark of identification pursuant to Section 29182.
(2) (A) Within 10 days of manufacturing or assembling a firearm in accordance with paragraph (1), the unique serial number or other mark of identification provided by the department shall be engraved or permanently affixed to the firearm in a manner that meets or exceeds the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms pursuant to subsection (i) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code and regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(B) If the firearm is manufactured or assembled from polymer plastic, 3.7 ounces of material type 17-4 PH stainless steel shall be embedded within the plastic upon fabrication or construction with the unique serial number engraved or otherwise permanently affixed in a manner that meets or exceeds the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms pursuant to subsection (i) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code and regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(3) After the serial number provided by the department is engraved or otherwise permanently affixed to the firearm, the person shall notify the department of that fact in a manner and within a time period specified by the department, and with sufficient information to identify the owner of the firearm, the unique serial number or mark of identification provided by the department, and the firearm in a manner prescribed by the department.
(c) By January 1, 2019, any person who, as of July 1, 2018, owns a firearm that does not bear a serial number assigned to it pursuant to either Section 23910 or Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Part 1 of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, shall do all of the following:
(1) Apply to the Department of Justice for a unique serial number or other mark of identification pursuant to Section 29182.
(2) Within 10 days of receiving a unique serial number or other mark of identification from the department, the unique serial number or other mark of identification provided by the department shall be engraved or permanently affixed to the firearm in accordance with regulations prescribed by the department pursuant to Section 29182 and in a manner that meets or exceeds the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms pursuant to subsection (i) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code and regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(3) After the serial number provided by the department is engraved or otherwise permanently affixed to the firearm, the person shall notify the department of that fact in a manner and within a time period specified by the department and with sufficient information to identify the owner of the firearm, the unique serial number or mark of identification provided by the department, and the firearm in a manner prescribed by the department.
(d) (1) The sale or transfer of ownership of a firearm manufactured or assembled pursuant to this section is prohibited.
(2) Paragraph (1) does not apply to the transfer, surrender, or sale of a firearm to a law enforcement agency.
(3) Any firearms confiscated by law enforcement that do not bear an engraved serial number or other mark of identification pursuant to subdivision (b) or (c), or a firearm surrendered, transferred, or sold to a law enforcement agency pursuant to paragraph (2) shall be destroyed as provided in Section 18005.
(4) Sections 26500 and 27545, and subdivision (a) of Section 31615, do not apply to the transfer, sale, or surrender of firearms to a law enforcement agency pursuant to paragraph (2).
(e) A new resident to the state shall apply for a unique serial number or other mark of identification pursuant to Section 29182 within 60 days of arrival for any firearm the resident wishes to possess in the state that the resident previously manufactured or assembled or a firearm the resident owns, that does not have a unique serial number or other mark of identification.
(f) A person, corporation, or firm shall not knowingly allow, facilitate, aid, or abet the manufacture or assembling of a firearm pursuant to this section by a person who is within any of the classes identified by Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of Division 9 of this code, or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.
(g) If the firearm is a handgun, a violation of this section is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment. For all other firearms, a violation of this section is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed six months, or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment. Each firearm found to be in violation of this section constitutes a distinct and separate offense. This section does not preclude prosecution under any other law providing for a greater penalty.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=29182.&lawCode=PEN

29182.
(a) (1) The Department of Justice shall accept applications from, and shall grant applications in the form of serial numbers pursuant to Section 23910 to, persons who wish to manufacture or assemble firearms pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 29180.
(2) The Department of Justice shall accept applications from, and shall grant applications in the form of serial numbers pursuant to Section 23910 to, persons who wish to own a firearm described in subdivision (c) of Section 29180.
(b) An application made pursuant to subdivision (a) shall only be granted by the department if the applicant does all of the following:
(1) For each transaction, completes a firearms eligibility check pursuant to Section 28220 demonstrating that the applicant is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
(2) (A) Presents proof of age and identity as specified in Section 16400. Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the applicant shall be 21 years of age or older to obtain a unique serial number or mark of identification for a firearm.
(B) The department shall grant an application to an applicant who is at least 18 years of age, but less than 21 years of age, for a serial number for a firearm that is not a handgun, if that application is made before February 1, 2019.
(3) Provides a description of the firearm that he or she owns or intends to manufacture or assemble, in a manner prescribed by the department.
(4) Has a valid firearm safety certificate or handgun safety certificate.
(c) The department shall inform applicants who are denied an application of the reasons for the denial in writing.
(d) All applications shall be granted or denied within 15 calendar days of the receipt of the application by the department.
(e) (1) This chapter does not authorize a person to manufacture, assemble, or possess a weapon prohibited under Section 16590, an assault weapon as defined in Section 30510 or 30515, a machinegun as defined in Section 16880, a .50 BMG rifle as defined in Section 30530, or a destructive device as defined in Section 16460.
(2) This chapter does not authorize a person, on or after July 1, 2018, to manufacture or assemble an unsafe handgun, as defined in Section 31910.
(f) The department shall adopt regulations to administer this chapter.

[Buschang98]

[Buschang98]

[SkyHawk]

If they are already serialized then you need to complete the new resident firearm registration. You can do it online or with this form https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...s/ab991frm.pdf

You can use your Military ID and your PCS order. A CA license is not required.

Enter your California driver license (CDL), California ID (CID), or Military ID (MIL) number in the ID number box to the right. If using military identification you must send a copy of your permanent duty station orders stating you are stationed in California.

[Buschang98]

[smittty]

They need to have the serial numbers, name, city and state, on the guns before they come to California. The engraving must meet the depth requirement.

The stainless inserts on the polymer80 products are soft and an electric engraving pencil can get the necessary depth but a forged AR lower is harder than the pencil can do.

For forged aluminum lowers the best I found was to have them laser etched.

[M1NM]

Different rules for military stationed here??? I don't think he's defined as a resident???

[smittty]

I’m trying to do so, but it’s saying I need a FSC or HSC number. I do not have either, but have purchased rifles and pistols in CA

Check your private messages!

[OCEquestrian]

So I recently moved to California. I’m not a resident as I’m military so I was stationed here. My question I cannot seem to find is I have 3 AR Pistol builds from 80 percent lowers I personally completed when I lived in Virginia. My question, is since I have them here, can I legally possess them because I was under the understanding I have to register my 80 percent lowers here that I finished. I just want to make sure I’m doing everything legally correct by having them here with me. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Send them back out of state ASAP.

I’m trying to do so, but it’s saying I need a FSC or HSC number. I do not have either, but have purchased rifles and pistols in CA

How have you managed to buy rifles and pistols in CA without an FSC/HSC? Long time ago?

[CAL.BAR]

And OP, before you do something "interesting" like sending the DOJ a picture of an assault weapon trying to register it, are you sure it is properly configured to NOT be an assault weapon?

[SkyHawk]

I’m trying to do so, but it’s saying I need a FSC or HSC number. I do not have either, but have purchased rifles and pistols in CA

Trying to do so what exactly - paper form or online form? Neither asks you for HSC or FSC, because a new resident does not need them to import guns when they move here.

So I am wondering if you are using the correct form. Look at the form I linked - there is nothing about FSC/HSC.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf

And for other forms that do require FSC or HSC, active duty military is exempt and instructions for how to claim that exemption are on the form. But you wont find anything about FSC/HSC on a new resident firearm ownership report.

I think you are looking at the firearms ownership report for existing residents. You do not want to use that. Use the report for NEW RESIDENTS. Because if you try and register home made semi auto AR pistols with the existing resident report, you are going to have a whole ‘nother set of serious problems.

[johnireland]

Reconsider living in California, and put the guns out of state until you relocate.

[BigPimping]

Reconsider coming here. Nothing is worth this. Well you plan your escape, I would send all of those firearms out of state. Don't put yourself in the way of legal action.

[RickD427]

So long as you are active duty military, and stationed here on PCS orders, you do not need to follow any of the "New Resident" reporting requirements. Those requirements will apply to you if you are discharged within California. Please refer to Penal Code section 17000(b)(2).

Even though not required, it may be advantageous to you to register them if there is any possibility that you may be caught carrying them either loaded, or concealed. A first time, unaggravated, violation of either is a felony if the weapon is not registered in California records to the violator and is only a misdemeanor if the weapon is so registered.

Make sure that your AR pistols do not meet California's definition of "Assault Weapons." You get a pass on the "New Resident" requirements by being military, but you don't get no pass on the "Assault Weapon" statutes. It is notionally possible for you to get a "Military Assault Weapons Permit" that would allow you to import "Assault Weapons" during your tour in California, but they're kinda impossible to get. Your Base Commander has to sign off on the permit and must certify that the weapon is needed in the course of your military duties. That process has to be repeated annually.