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  • GMG
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 7974

    1919a4

    Semi auto legal in Cali. ??
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  • #2
    Josh3239
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 9197

    With spade grip, yes.

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    • #3
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      even with a pistol grip.

      CADOJ has a letter out stating that 1919a4's are not AWs since the PG is behind the action, not below the action. And that does not even bring up the fact that a 1919a4 is not even a rifle (not designed to be fired from the shoulder) , so it shouldn't be able to violate the rifle AW regulations.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        5thstreet@sbcglobal.net
        Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 470

        Originally posted by ke6guj
        even with a pistol grip.

        CADOJ has a letter out stating that 1919a4's are not AWs since the PG is behind the action, not below the action. And that does not even bring up the fact that a 1919a4 is not even a rifle (not designed to be fired from the shoulder) , so it shouldn't be able to violate the rifle AW regulations.
        +1 doesnt this fall into the "crew service" weapons category

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        • #5
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          there is no CA-defined "crew service" catagory.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #6
            5thstreet@sbcglobal.net
            Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 470

            hmmm I FAIL

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            • #7
              dirtyJ
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1002

              Originally posted by ke6guj
              even with a pistol grip.

              CADOJ has a letter out stating that 1919a4's are not AWs since the PG is behind the action, not below the action. And that does not even bring up the fact that a 1919a4 is not even a rifle (not designed to be fired from the shoulder) , so it shouldn't be able to violate the rifle AW regulations.
              This. Trust me, once you start building it, or you buy one like I did, you'll love the effect it has on people .
              My posts are my own opinion and reflect no official positions of anyone other than myself.

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              • #8
                cactus
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 1556

                I have both the US department of justice and Ca DOJ letters definitely legal. Just be careful with your belts and stay in compliance. My 1919 is the only gun I have taken to the range and had people ask to take a picture next to. So having the appropriate paper work with you is a big help as it draws attention. Im not to computer savvy but pm me your email and I will try to scan them and e-mail them to you if you want. Now build the thing!

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                • #9
                  Josh3239
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 9197

                  Originally posted by ke6guj
                  even with a pistol grip.

                  CADOJ has a letter out stating that 1919a4's are not AWs since the PG is behind the action, not below the action. And that does not even bring up the fact that a 1919a4 is not even a rifle (not designed to be fired from the shoulder) , so it shouldn't be able to violate the rifle AW regulations.
                  Aww, I forgot about that one. The only ones I remembered were spade grips and the pistol grip with buttstock. Or is that a different 1919 model?

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                  • #10
                    cactus
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1556

                    Pistol grip, with buttstock, usually on a bi pod is the a6 I believe.

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                    • #11
                      thefifthspeed
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2674

                      Originally posted by Josh3239
                      Aww, I forgot about that one. The only ones I remembered were spade grips and the pistol grip with buttstock. Or is that a different 1919 model?
                      You're thinking of the 1919A6 which would be a no go here in CA.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        Originally posted by thefifthspeed
                        You're thinking of the 1919A6 which would be a no go here in CA.
                        not neccessarily. CADOJ has stated that the PG on the 1919 is not an evil feature because it is behind the action, not below. So, as long as you don't run a flash-hider, it should comply with the rifle AW regs.
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          Beelzy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 9224

                          Originally posted by GMG
                          Semi auto legal in Cali. ??
                          Yes.....however finding one and a FFL willing to bring one into Calif. is a hard
                          one.
                          "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                          • #14
                            tlillard23
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 1446

                            Originally posted by Beelzy
                            Yes.....however finding one and a FFL willing to bring one into Calif. is a hard
                            one.

                            FUD.
                            It's easy, I don't even know of a FFL that WON'T transfer a 1919.

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                            • #15
                              M1A Rifleman
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3691

                              Originally posted by cactus
                              I have both the US department of justice and Ca DOJ letters definitely legal. Just be careful with your belts and stay in compliance. My 1919 is the only gun I have taken to the range and had people ask to take a picture next to. So having the appropriate paper work with you is a big help as it draws attention. Im not to computer savvy but pm me your email and I will try to scan them and e-mail them to you if you want. Now build the thing!
                              PM sent. Thx
                              The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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