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  • SCVlongstroke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 725

    Bolt action to semi auto rifle

    Are there any bolt action rifles that can be physically and legally converted into semi auto in California?
  • #2
    SoCal326
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1098

    Why would you want to? Sound like an interesting project.

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    • #3
      hambam105
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7083

      Couple of long time boarders at Folsom have been trying this idea for years.

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      • #4
        SVT-40
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2008
        • 12894

        Not "bolt action", but I converted a "pump action" AK into a semi...





        Back in the early existence of the Springfield 1903 rifle the Pederson device was developed to convert the 1903 rifle into a semi auto which fired a .30 caliber pistol round.

        The converted 1903's were modified with an ejection port and were reclassified as the 1903 Mk 1.

        Only a handful of the Pederson devices exist today. They are very very valuable. $43,000.00 in the below linked auction.



        Rare Pedersen Device and Magazine with Springfield M1903 Mark I Bolt Action Rifle and AccessoriesRare Pedersen Device and 40-round magazine, U.S. Springfield M1903 Mark I rifle and accessories. The group consists of: (1) Pedersen Device serial no.14613, (2) 40-round magazine, (3) M1903 Mark I rifle, (4) two cartons of 40 "CAL. 30 AUTO. PISTOL BALL CARTRIDGES MODEL OF 1918" cartridges for Pedersen Device, (5) canvas magazine pouches marked "R.I.A./6-19", (6) brass Frankford Arsenal gang mold for five .30 round balls (buckshot) and (7) leather M1905 bayonet scabbard. Designed by J.D. Pedersen c. 1917, the Pedersen Device was a replacement bolt and magazine which, when inserted in a modified M1903 rifle, converted the rifle to semi-automatic fire. Pedersen's concept was to provide rifle-equipped infantry with a weapon that produced a high volume of semi-automatic fire in the assault and retained the capability for the long range firepower of a standard infantry rifle. The M1903 Mark I rifle had an oval ejection port in the left side of the receiver, special stock modified to accommodate the ejection port, special sear/trigger and modified magazine cut-off. Prior to installation of the Pedersen Device, the Mark I rifle fired the standard .30-06 cartridge and functioned exactly like a standard M1903 rifle. On removal of the bolt and insertion of the Pedersen Device and 40-round magazine, the Mark I rifle functioned as a semi-automatic rifle firing the low velocity .30 caliber Pedersen cartridge. The Ordnance Department adopted the Pedersen Device in March 1918 and for security purposes designated it "AUTOMATIC PISTOL CALIBER 30, MODEL 1918". A total of 500,000 Pedersen Devices were eventually ordered from Remington Arms Co. About 65,000 devices had been delivered when WWI ended in November 1918. No Pedersen Devices were ever issued to troops in the field. Postwar evaluation of the Pedersen Device determined that it served no practical purpose. In April 1931, 64,873, Pedersen Devices and 60 million rounds of ammunition were destroyed. Very few Pedersen Devices and magazines escaped destruction or retention by government museums. The Pedersen Device has a black-green parkerized finish. The right side is marked: "REMINGTON-BRIDGEPORT/PEDERSEN'S PATENT" in two lines above the cocking serrations The opposite side of the device is marked: "U.S.A. 1918-MARK I/14613" in two lines. An eagle head Ordnance inspection mark is stamped on the front face of the device body. The magazine has a black parkerized finish and is covered in grease. The Mark I rifle has the correct combination of blued and parkerized components with "J5" steel lot code on the bolt and "SA" marked barrel dated "1-20". The receiver is fitted with the correct Pedersen Device magazine cut-off and screw. The stock and forearm are WWII replacements which are not stamped with proof or inspection marks. The scarce gang mold is marked: "FRANKFORD ARSENAL/1900" on the bottom of one block and "CAL. 30/OML" on the bottom of the other block. Both blocks and the blued steel sprue cutter are stamped with the serial number "101". The M1905 Scabbard is in un-altered condition and has illegible arsenal markings on the back of the leather body.
        Last edited by SVT-40; 03-26-2020, 4:48 PM.
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        • #5
          LateBraking
          iTrader in Bio
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2013
          • 1628

          Originally posted by SoCal326
          Why would you want to?
          All the AR's are sold out and Remington 700s are all that are left.
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          • #6
            n8vrmind
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 1462

            Gun Jesus says yes



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            • #7
              Duck Killer
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2227

              Originally posted by SVT-40
              Not "bolt action", but I converted a "pump action" AK into a semi...





              Back in the early existence of the Springfield 1903 rifle the Pederson device was developed to convert the 1903 rifle into a semi auto which fired a .30 caliber pistol round.

              The converted 1903's were modified with an ejection port and were reclassified as the 1903 Mk 1.

              Only a handful of the Pederson devices exist today. They are very very valuable. $43,000.00 in the below linked auction.



              https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...ld-m1903-rifle
              One of dream pet projects to reproduce the pederson device in 32 auto.

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30241

                Originally posted by SCVlongstroke
                Are there any bolt action rifles that can be physically and legally converted into semi auto in California?
                Doing so will require compliance with CA assault weapons laws for rifles.

                So, if you make a bolt-action rifle into a semi-auto centerfire rifle, then it will need to operate with a fixed 10 or less round magazine or be featureless.
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #9
                  SCVlongstroke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 725

                  Originally posted by Quiet
                  Doing so will require compliance with CA assault weapons laws for rifles.

                  So, if you make a bolt-action rifle into a semi-auto centerfire rifle, then it will need to operate with a fixed 10 or less round magazine or be featureless.

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                  • #10
                    smle-man
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10580



                    With enough time and ingenuity anything can be accomplished.

                    there is a Lee Enfield hiding under all that hardware.

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                    • #11
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30241

                      Originally posted by SCVlongstroke
                      Would there need to be any DOJ paperwork doing so?
                      No.
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                      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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