Prejudice against gun owners

[ChibiPaw]

Sorry guys, I need to rant a little because of an incident happened today bear with me and listen on. I'll make this as brief as possible. It is very upsetting that such blatant prejudtism against us law abiding gun owners.

So I am selling some toys on a Live Journal community. One twist to my listing was that I accept money as well as ammo as a currency.

The moderator immediately jumped on me quoting non-existing rules, bent on of course getting rid of any mention of guns related things. but it is ok with members selling pornography to anyone, including minors openly.

Meanwhile Live Journal itself clearly spelled out that I am in compliant with all system rules, as well as all Federal and State laws, therefore they are not interested in any involvement.

While I've bent over backward catering to every little thing they made up to regulate my posts content out. Including sighting the my "ammo" request is considered a trade, so therefore it has to be Asian ordinated. Fine, so I've changed my post to accept ammo of Asian manufacturing such as Norinco, and PMC. Now that I've cornered them in every turn, they're just lashing out at me, again making up more rules as they go. Do you guys feel the society at large are really that misguided?

Read the stupidity here: [url]http://community.livejournal.com/garagesalejapan/11671501.htm[/url] Deleted because I've cornered the mods on their own rules, and they needed to save face. The argument still continues here at the moderators feedback journal:http://gsj-mods.livejournal.com/639.html?view=768127#t768127

But lucky, as we all know, there is no such thing as deleting anything of the net. A copy of the last the thread right before it was deleted is located here:http://www.mermaid.org/preserved/gsj3.html

I've also mirrored the listing here on CGN, but it's does not contain the conversation

Evidently someone picked up the thread over at AR15.com too..

[yellowfin]

Ya know, I've been doing a little informal experiment in wearing my NRA hats almost everywhere every day for the last several months while out and about and seen nothing but positive interaction from people. Strange in a place supposedly overrun by hostile people.

[JDay]

Well you know what Sigmund Freud had to say about a fear of weapons.

A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.

[ChibiPaw]

Ya know, I've been doing a little informal experiment in wearing my NRA hats almost everywhere every day for the last several months while out and about and seen nothing but positive interaction from people. Strange in a place supposedly overrun by hostile people.

The thing with that is, most people wont say anything to our face. Most people are not that confrontational face to face.

On the more extreme side, thats why OC is such a hot topic that rocks everyone's boat.

btw thread deleted, updated original post reflecting changes.

[ChibiPaw]

Well you know what Sigmund Freud had to say about a fear of weapons.

In that case, we got a lot of sexually retarded people in this country!

Btw, thread deleted, story updated

[AJAX22]

I couldn't find any reference to your discussion in the mod forum.

Sorry to hear that they are being so intolerant.

[ChibiPaw]

Well you know what Sigmund Freud had to say about a fear of weapons.

I couldn't find any reference to your discussion in the mod forum.

Sorry to hear that they are being so intolerant.

It was just annoying. but still kind of feel good that they had to delete the thread to have the last word since I've cornered them really good on their own rules.

But looks like that thread require the mods to "unscreen" to see it publicly.

Here is a copy what I wrote:

Since my fully compliant entry was deleted. I am forced to post here to rebut your respond.

I'd like to ask you, have you actually read and understood my listing in it's entirely?
I will once again summarize, I hope you would read and understand.

* They are not loopholes. The rules are very simple, and what your team had claimed simply does not exist. This was verified with LJ TOS.

* Yes it might be unusual and it is not wrong. but I find it very shocking to hear this from fan of Japanese cultures. When most of it revolves around finding ways to be different in their socially restricted world. The Federal/State laws, as well as LJ had already deemed "ok". Honestly, what is your reason on why you have deem ammunition to be so evil? And why do your opinion supersedes Federal and State laws which clearly indicates it is legal? Again if you're going to sight the international customer please read on before you start your reply.

* What I mean by obscene was from the Supreme Court ruling of Miller v. California, 413 U.S. The availability of it, how ever small percentage in this community it is still illegal to facilitate selling selling to minors or to countries prohibiting such items.

* You keep pointing out that GSJ caters to an international audience, and implying this has anything to do with it. Have you not read my post at all or are you selectively reading? The primary payment method is US DOLLARS, but alternatively Yen and ammo are accepted. And I have explicitly indicated that ammunition as a form of payment are for US customers only. This does not alienate anyone from purchasing my items using money, which was the primary form of payment. Therefore only Federal and State laws applies. An original copy of it can be viewed here for your you to re-examine : http://www.mermaid.org/preserved/gsj.html

* By harassment I am referring to a USER, not a moderator. This usr was Lunchy on the post 2009-05-06 12:18 am UTC (from 173.76.38.80) Please read exactly what this person said. The post was engineered to only and only serves to be argumentative no practical purposes.

* I am not making it into anything. It was either buy my toys or not, it's that simple. You know as well as I do, I am in compliant. The real reason of deletion is that your team had made some mistakes, and nobody likes being called on it.

* Catering to to all international users. This is not a good reason as indicated above, but if it is so important to protect all users access. Then refusing buyers from Spain and Italy should not be allowed under the same reasoning.

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Their reply was:

Subject: Re: Mod Post
I thank you for your input, but this is the first time that someone from
the community has sold stuff and ask for something like ammunition in
return. This is not a personal bias, the view that your request was
inappropriate is shared by other moderators of this community.

As you have pointed out: there are a lot of loopholes in our rules, since
we depend on the commonsense of our members to ask before posting when
they have requests that are out of the ordinary. Yours fall under this
category. Most people would find it a bit unusual to ask for ammunition
when selling toys from an animated series that has a female teenage
target audience. You can do so here:
http://gsj-mods.livejournal.com/639.html.

With regards to Hentai items, I believe the definition of 'obscene' is
subjective. Doujinshi are not explicit by nature (only a subset of these
are R18, as with other forms of fiction).

You quote State and Federal laws, but GSJ caters for an international
community. Not every country allows over the counter purchase of
ammunition.

By harassment, if you are referring to my continual request for you to
remove the section in question, please be aware that it was a moderator
request that you continuously tried to reason your way out of/find
loopholes in our rules.

I am deleting your post as you're making this into something other than
an selling post.

[Steve O]

Moderators can do what ever the hell they want!
And it doesn't have anything to do with the rules.

It happens here all the time.
Welcome to the internet, "Due Process" does not apply!

[PatriotnMore]

Do you guys feel the society at large are really that misguided?

No. I do feel the anti gun crowd is just more vocal than the most others, who are pro gun.

[high_revs]

did i read hentai!!! whooo hooooo

[B.D.Dubloon]

Ya know, I've been doing a little informal experiment in wearing my NRA hats almost everywhere every day for the last several months while out and about and seen nothing but positive interaction from people. Strange in a place supposedly overrun by hostile people.

I also rock my NRA hat all over the place, and I live in Santa Cruz. I haven't had any real problems, although sometimes I get pretty crappy service at some places, but I don't know if that is on account of the hat or just the generally ****ty caliber of people we have around here.

Did get into a nice discussion with an Asian guy in a bar who said his hat hadn't shown up and it had been a month or two. I told him sometimes it takes a while and directed him to the website of our local private range and told him to check it out.

BDD

[M1A Rifleman]

Ya know, I've been doing a little informal experiment in wearing my NRA hats almost everywhere every day for the last several months while out and about and seen nothing but positive interaction from people. Strange in a place supposedly overrun by hostile people.

I had an NRA decal on my pickup and a girl I dated at the time saw the decal and asked - "isn't that a racist organization?"

[ChibiPaw]

did i read hentai!!! whooo hooooo

LOL. I dont know if you should whoo hoo just like that.
among just normal stuff, I was referring to were yaoi, shota. Which is male + male , and boy + ? combination. do you REALLY want THAT?

Yes, and they call my list "unusual".. Heh.. what a bunch of hypocrites.

[JDay]

LOL. I dont know if you should whoo hoo just like that.
among just normal stuff, I was referring to were yaoi, shota. Which is male + male , and boy + ? combination. do you REALLY want THAT?

Yes, and they call my list "unusual".. Heh.. what a bunch of hypocrites.

At least they didn't bust out the tentacle stuff.

[SDgarrick]

Ah Jesus, I actually know what you're talking about...tentacle stuff yeesh.