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  • scamp62
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 1009

    Have a question for the brain trust here.

    I am truly asking this for a friend. He has a nephew that lives in Reno, and has a Ruger Mk4 pistol that he whats to sell to my friend that lives here in SoCal, what has to happen to do this deal? I thank you for any information that I can pass on!
  • #2
    Oldmandan
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2721

    Can’t do it. Not legal

    Off roster handgun
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    • #3
      ARDude
      Veteran Member
      • May 2006
      • 2723

      The nephew moves to Ca, then the two Ca residents can do a PPT. Or your friend can move to Nevada, and buy it from his nephew.
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      • #4
        sonofeugene
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 4531

        How is that possible? People buy used, off roster hand guns all the time.
        Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

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        • #5
          superdave50
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 813

          Originally posted by sonofeugene
          How is that possible? People buy used, off roster hand guns all the time.
          When both parties are residents of the same state

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57144

            Originally posted by scamp62
            I am truly asking this for a friend. He has a nephew that lives in Reno, and has a Ruger Mk4 pistol that he whats to sell to my friend that lives here in SoCal, what has to happen to do this deal? I thank you for any information that I can pass on!
            Intra-family out-of-state transfers only apply to direct bloodline so it has to be his mother/father or his son/daughter that he is getting the gun from.
            You can NOT do an intra-family out-of-state transfer with a brother/sister, aunt/uncle, cousin/niece/nephew or grandfather/grandmother.
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            • #7
              sonofeugene
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 4531

              Originally posted by superdave50
              When both parties are residents of the same state
              I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.
              Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

              A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

              Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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              • #8
                superdave50
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 813

                Originally posted by sonofeugene
                I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.
                Yes, it is common and legal, when both parties are California residents. The scenario mentioned in op is NV resident selling to CA resident. That scenario would not be legal.

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                • #9
                  sonofeugene
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 4531

                  Got it. Thanks!
                  Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                  A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                  Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57144

                    Originally posted by sonofeugene
                    I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.
                    By CA residents.
                    When both the buyer and seller are residents, the gun can transfer as a private party transfer through an FFL dealer.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #11
                      redcliff
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5676

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      Intra-family out-of-state transfers only apply to direct bloodline so it has to be his mother/father or his son/daughter that he is getting the gun from.
                      You can NOT do an intra-family out-of-state transfer with a brother/sister, aunt/uncle, cousin/niece/nephew or grandfather/grandmother.
                      Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.
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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57144

                        Originally posted by redcliff
                        Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.
                        Don't know for sure but I always understood it to be 1 generation direct bloodline.
                        Grandparents traditionally give to parents and then parents give to children.
                        I don't know if you can bypass the generation and do it directly as well.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          Originally posted by redcliff
                          Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.
                          Don't know for sure but I always understood it to be 1 generation direct bloodline.
                          Grandparents traditionally give to parents and then parents give to children.
                          I don't know if you can bypass the generation and do it directly as well.
                          Nothing has changed.

                          Grandparent and grandchild is still considered immediate family. [PC 16720(b)]



                          Penal Code 16720
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