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Yavapia Co. Az. Declared 2nd Amendment Sanctuary
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I don't deny this. I'm counting the days until I make my journey there. Bringing all of my California retirement money and pension to spend in Arizona. Leaving California politics to rot with the state.
I lost hope for California years ago. The once great state has degenerated into almost third world status. DemocRATs have their super-majorities in both houses, they're implemented ballot-harvesting to keep it that way.
Good luck fixing that mess. I mean that sincerely, good luck. I'm just tired of watching it slide continuously in the direction opposite of liberty. Life's too short to spend it in a constant fight, with no sign of victory.Comment
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And to keep with your military-ish definitions, I'll define one who stays and fights in the face of impossible, and continuously worsening odds, only to be slaughtered, as an idiot.Not conflicted at all. Your typical disingenuous parsing of quotes. To make them appear other than original context is again noted.
My quote coupled with the "smilies" you intentionally parsed, denotes a clear choice.
Stars n Stripes? [patriot]....or.... White flag of surrender?[coward]
The world's largest English Language dictionary define the action of those who run away and wave a white flag, [as you have done].
Your actions define your role. Your words are just blah blah blah, and mean nothing.
Woe be us all if on Apr. 19th, 1775 those standing at Old North Bridge in Concord, Mass. Did what you have done. I assure you they would not be now known as Heroes and Patriots. Their actions defined them. Just as does yours.
You miss the point. Nobody is running away. They're escaping. Do you define the POW as a coward for running away from the prison camp?Comment
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I wasn't familiar with the term, so I looked it up:And to keep with your military-ish definitions, I'll define one who stays and fights in the face of impossible, and continuously worsening odds, only to be slaughtered, as an idiot.
You miss the point. Nobody is running away. They're escaping. Do you define the POW as a coward for running away from the prison camp?
Merriam Webster - idiot noun
1: a foolish or stupid person
Oh, I'm not by any means tagging pacrat. If he stayed, he tagged himself.
Last edited by madjack956; 02-07-2020, 11:20 AM.Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.orgComment
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Why would you assume that because someone lives in Arizona they are doing nothing for the 2A fight?
Oh, and I didn't run anywhere. I drove with a big *** smile on my face as I was fulfilling a dream, and released a big stress free sigh as I crossed the bridge at the state line.sigpic
Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.Comment
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Poke'm with a stick!
Originally posted by fiddletownWhat you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.Comment
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The wife and I refer to it as the "Freedom Trail".Whenever I drive across the bridge that spans the Colorado river just past Blythe on I-10, I observe the sign that denotes the California/Arizona border. Looking over the bridge at the actual river, one will notice a definite difference in the color of the water between the two states; on the Arizona side, it is clean and a nice blue/green. On the California side, it is a poop brown, rust colored water that represents the rusting iron shackles placed on the citizenry by many decades of an oppressive state legislature, that does everything possible to enslave those who don't follow their leftist, socialist agenda. They are best described as "swine sodomizing canines".Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.orgComment
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Well, when you put it like that...it sure clearly shows what the differences are. Makes it look pretty bad around here...which it is...You can tag me with all the names you want, but after 40 years of losing ground in California, Im as happy as a clam in Arizona.
I walk around everyday with my Sig concealed, How about you? When I ride my motorcycle I wear it on my side.
When I walk into Walmart or a restaurant or just about any damn place in town, there is no problem, no panic.
When I shoot my AR's at the range, I push the mag release to drop the mag and put a fresh 30 rounder back in. They have all evil features.
When I buy a new pistol I go to the gun shop and buy what ever I want (no list) in roughly 20 minutes and walk out with it then and there.
If I look in the paper and see a firearm for sale I can go to the sellers house and buy it on the spot with merely an AZ. license.
I can drive with a pistol in the console or glove box or trunk and not have to have it under lock and key.
I can also walk from my house to the vehicle without having it locked up.
I can loan it to my friends or borrow one of theirs. I can buy ammo online.
That is just some of the freedoms I live with everyday. Others are no smog
laws, 5 year vehicle registration for $130.00, free bags at the grocery store,
no helmet laws, free straws, no human feces on the sidewalk, absolutely no
traffic, 75mph limit, friendly people, low gas prices, clean air.
I also have no mortgage, low property tax, free water and cheap utilities.
That's about it Forrest, but I'm sure there are a few more things.
If staying in CA is your way of defining your role in the 2A battle, I wish you
luck with your decision and I wont even come up with a list of derogatory
terms because I don't see it your way. I decided to unload that burden and
live free till I die. I fought in CA for a lot of years, but finally realized I was
going to die fighting a losing battle.
I have a feeling you are going to come to the same realization some day.
I wish you all the best.
JackWilson Protector .45, Springer 9mm Loaded, Franchi Instinct SL .12ga. and some other cool stuff for the kiddos...Comment
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I'm half-deaf, but still only hear CRICKETS.......This phrase from your initial posting in this thread is what put folks on the defensive.
Quoting Mirriam Webster, or Ammoland means nothing to me.
I took your comments to imply that I'm a coward for the act of leaving California, rather than choosing to remain behind for whatever reason. Please correct me if that is not the case. We can continue this dialog from whatever reply you choose.
SplitHoof
Guess there will be no response.....time to move on, put another on the ignore list.Comment
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I'll define one who stays and fights in the face of impossible, and continuously worsening odds, only to be slaughtered, a "foolish or stupid person".
FIFY
That said, I get some people are stuck here due to family, job, ankle bracelet, or other reason. But if the only reason someone is staying is to fight the government, that person is tilting at windmills, and a foolish or stupid person. They won't win.Comment
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Poke'm with a stick!
Originally posted by fiddletownWhat you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.Comment
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Bingo!

Congrats Yavapia Co.U.S. Army/Sgt./67N (Aviation/1st CAV DIV, FT. HOOD/2nd INF DIV, S. KOREA/NTC FLT DET, FT. IRWIN) Veteran '81-'86Comment
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The beauty of this whole deal with the Yavapai County B.O.S. doing this is there really was no immediate threat to the gun laws. Most states/counties in the U.S. would die for the 2A freedoms Yavapai County experiences.
This is akin to L.A. County B.O.S. declaring the county a sanctuary for celebrities and sunshine just in case those freedoms come under threat.
Just think of how good it must feel that the people that represent you have your best interests in mind even when it is not an issue.
Talk about hedging your bets.
Arizona Rules 2A!Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.orgComment
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That's the county my Mom and Stepdad live in. Looks like they chose wisely when they left Kommiefornia.Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.Comment
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