Was I sold a used gun?

[FluorideInMyWater]

I picked up a "new" HK that I had transferred from an online vendor. I noticed what i thought was a finger print, but the lighting wasn't great. I did a quick check over and went home.

I opened it on my dining room table under heavy light and was shocked at what i found...lubricant everywhere all over the slide, inside the breech and splatter on the walls and outside the breech on the top of the gun. The magazine has more scratches than i would expect plus lubricant; some marks that to me looks like from ammo being loaded into it, and lubricant all over the slide, inside from front to back, and outside. the the recoil spring assembly is rusty. I just looks like someone doused the gun in lubricant, my thought being to clean the evidence of it being fired after it left HK. I can't imagine HK would let a gun that looked like this leave the factory.

here are pics. tell me what you think, because i really don't know and don't want to accuse the vendor of misrepresentation.

thanks in advance for your help!

[FluorideInMyWater]

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i maxed out. the rest just show lubricant all over the outside of the slide.

[Duck Killer]

Thats not new.

[Mystery_Milk]

It's not unusual for a gun to be greased for storage and shipping. The finger marks in the grease could very well be from the shipping and receiving FFLs making sure the gun was empty when they shipped or received it.

The only things unusual are the rusty guide rod and magazine. The guide rod could easily be from just being stored in a place that wasn't dry enough, which is still not good. The marks on the magazine are hard to explain though.

You could call HK up and ask for the date of manufacture and check how recent it is. I'm sure they'd also take care of the guide rod. If this was a used gun, I'm sure they'd also appreciate to know who's passing off their used guns as new.

[ZX9ALLDAY]

Gun stores usually get guns from their warehouses, warehouses get them from distributors, distributors get then from manufacturers. Guns get finger blasted by people all the time once they leave the factory. Who knows how many people touched your gun before you took it home. I can guarantee you this happens at every gun store. You just paid more attention than most.

[Duck Killer]

The mag scratches can be from the switching of a high cap mag for a used 10 rounder.

[wolfmann]

Looks like a gun that has been in long term storage,the wrong lube can do that to a finish.

[Barang]

i don't remember buying a new gun with magazine looking like that. but the prints on the gun could have been by receiving ffl for checking and verifying it.

[Yodaman]

Looks like a gun that has been in long term storage,the wrong lube can do that to a finish.

I would agree with this. Plus what you can see if the feed ramp looks good and not worn.


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[pistolero805]

Doesn't look too bad. Some magazines have almost like a painted finish that is easily scraped off. Could have been an overzealous employee doing mag changes in his best John Wick impersonation.

The brass markings on the follower are most likely from test firing. I worked at a gun store for several years and you wouldn't believe how some guns came from distributors. Some scratched, some rusty, and some with sights that looked like they were put on by crazy eyes from Mr. Deeds. That should have been sent back by the dealer.

[Endless]

Looks normal for a firearm that has sat for awhile on the shelf. A couple of mine looked similar. They had been in stock for a year or more.

But a HK USP for $375 and looking like this with warranty I didn’t care. That’s just me.

[pancakes go]

date code is on slide as BK. A: 0, B: 1, C: 2 etc.
gun was made in 2019 so it couldn’t have been in storage too long.
what does the barrel/bore look like? any marks on the hood or inside the slide?

[Tarmy]

I assume that gun has been fired at the factory...the rust is interesting.

Strip it , lube, shoot, lube, shoot some more...

My Wilson came with a target and the name of who shot the hole in it at Wilson!

[M1NM]

What does the face of the breech around the firing pin look like? That gets marked easily with recoil.

[SloChicken]

this should explain the issue comprehensively.