Gun lock for long gun required for PPT?

[cgseanp1]

[Master_Prestige]

Places seem to love to bend the rules so I rarely squabble with them over the $6 lock but yes. You are %100 correct a safe affidavit is enough to release a long gun.

[McHammy]

You can bring your own lock if you also bring a receipt saying it was bought in the last 30 days. Alternative is buying a new lock or signing the affidavit

[Librarian]

Livermore is special -

9.80.012 Requirement to sell or provide trigger locks or similar devices.

https://www.codepublishing.com/CA/Livermore/

[drkphibr]

If you have the receipt for the long you recently purchased for your last PPT, it's good for 30 days and you could use it for this (funny how locks expire after 30 days).

J&R will sell you their locks with the PPT, but only charge $5/lock.

[BruceR]

I used to frequent a gun shop that gave everyone a free lock with every firearm purchase. And all of us customers would simply walk away without it as this custom was merely to satisfy the letter of the law. That one gun lock must have been included with dozens of sales . . .

[r1ghtw1ng]

If you have the receipt for the long you recently purchased for your last PPT, it's good for 30 days and you could use it for this (funny how locks expire after 30 days).

J&R will sell you their locks with the PPT, but only charge $5/lock.

Buy a gun lock at walmart or big 5.
present lock and receipt to J&R at time of pickup.
return lock to walmart/big 5.

[cgseanp1]

Buy a gun lock at walmart or big 5.
present lock and receipt to J&R at time of pickup.
return lock to walmart/big 5.

[Looneybin]

LGS here has a bucket next to the door full of locks with instructions to take a lock, and you can keep it or take the case out to the car and bring the lock back in, but is has to leave the store locked in the case

[r1ghtw1ng]

Hmm, it's been awhile since i've done a PPT there, not entirely sure what the official word is at J&R.

[3006]

What it has lock on when its brought in that satisfy the law ?

[Librarian]

What it has lock on when its brought in that satisfy the law ?

Is that 'if the gun has a lock with it when brought in by the seller, does that satisfy CA law?'

It should; there is a bit of disagreement by some FFLs, but the law says

23635.

(a) Any firearm sold or transferred in this state by a licensed firearms dealer, including a private transfer through a dealer, and any firearm manufactured in this state, shall include or be accompanied by a firearm safety device that is listed on the Department of Justice’s roster of approved firearm safety devices and that is identified as appropriate for that firearm by reference to either the manufacturer and model of the firearm, or to the physical characteristics of the firearm that match those listed on the roster for use with the device.
...

Doesn't say 'dealer must sell' or 'provide' or have anything to do with the 'safety device', and goes on to say

(b) The sale or transfer of a firearm shall be exempt from subdivision (a) if both of the following apply:

(1) The purchaser or transferee owns a gun safe that meets the standards set forth in Section 23650. Gun safes shall not be required to be tested, and therefore may meet the standards without appearing on the Department of Justice roster.

(2) The purchaser or transferee presents an original receipt for purchase of the gun safe, or other proof of purchase or ownership of the gun safe as authorized by the Attorney General, to the firearms dealer. The dealer shall maintain a copy of this receipt or proof of purchase with the dealer’s record of sales of firearms.



(c) The sale or transfer of a firearm shall be exempt from subdivision (a) if all of the following apply:

(1) The purchaser or transferee purchases an approved safety device no more than 30 days prior to the day the purchaser or transferee takes possession of the firearm.

(2) The purchaser or transferee presents the approved safety device to the firearms dealer when picking up the firearm.

(3) The purchaser or transferee presents an original receipt to the firearms dealer, which shows the date of purchase, the name, and the model number of the safety device.

(4) The firearms dealer verifies that the requirements in paragraphs (1) to (3), inclusive, have been satisfied.

(5) The firearms dealer maintains a copy of the receipt along with the dealer’s record of sales of firearms.
...

Livermore, however, has its own slant on that:

Firearms dealers doing business within the City of Livermore shall not sell, lease, or otherwise transfer any firearm without also selling or providing a nonreturnable trigger lock, or similar safety device,

'Bring your own' does not work.

[JoyfulJoker]

I've just signed a form stating my type of safe and that's good enough. Did it for both a long gun and a pistol. The lock thing is a scam.

[ugimports]

...Livermore, however, has its own slant on that: 'Bring your own' does not work.

Depends how creative the shop cares to be.. something that could work is:
A) livermore shop has bucket of locks it provides to customers
B) customer brings in a lock of their own and drops into bucket
C) livermore shop then provides a lock from the bucket

a variation of leave a penny take a penny which would satisfy the law..

However, I'm sure it's easier for them to just sell a lock.