Storage laws vs black powder wallhangers

[heyjerr]

I have a couple of black powder pistols and a rifle that I have up as wallhangers. Saw another thread in the General Discussion forum that didn't seem related in any way but then read that California defines black powder weapons as firearms. Got me wondering if these wallhangers of mine would actually fall under the recent storage laws.

I'd always assume they weren't considered firearms (first "mistake") and that hanging them on the wall wasn't a violation of the storage laws, but now I'm wondering if I am unknowingly putting myself at risk.

Sounds stupid on the surface if you're a reasonable person who understands how they operate. Would love to hear what the more legally-inclined folk in this forum would ponder.

[Quiet]

CA criminal storage of firearms laws applies to:
1. loaded firearms that are unsecured and taken by a minor. [PC 25100-25125]
2. firearms that are unsecured and a prohibited person that is living in the same residence has access to them. [PC 25135]
3. leaving an unsecured handgun in your vehicle. [PC 25140]

Therefore...

Do you have minors/prohibited persons that live with you or visit your residence on a regular basis?
If no, then it is CA legal to have an unloaded antique firearm hanging on the interior walls of your residence.
If yes, then it is CA legal to have an unloaded antique firearm hanging on the interior walls of your residence as long as it is secured (chained/locked) to the wall.

[stormvet]

I have modern firearms as wall hangers, a Glock from my department that’s engraved and an old M1 carbine. I’ve removed the firing pins from both, but besides that they are fully functional. You can go crazy whatifing yourself when it comes to CA firearms laws. I certainly would not be concerned about black powder guns as wall hangers.

[NapalmCheese]

So I definitely don't trust qora but they have references to the California PCs that specify that an unloaded black powder gun is not a firearm.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-in-California-to-build-a-black-powder-firearm-without-registering-it-or-obtaining-a-license

So go forth and follow the PCs!

[big red]

I was always under the impression that black powder was excluded from cartridge gun storage laws if they were unloaded and do not meet the definition of a fire arm federally. The feds do not consider them to be firearms as long as they are not converted and not loaded. none of mine on display are ever loaded and i don't even keep powder or shot or patches for them since they represent historical guns of the past or are actual examples.

[edgerly779]

Removing firing pins from modern smokeless firearms means nothing. They are still firearms.

[stormvet]

Removing firing pins from modern smokeless firearms means nothing. They are still firearms.