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  • tim1689
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2019
    • 1

    Used guns to buy?

    New to the gun area, wife and I bought two handguns both Cal compliant and an MP15

    We are looking at buying some smaller 380's and since there are only a few choices in California we are looking at used but I'm not sure on what the law is.

    Can we buy used from out of state and shipped to our local FFL. Can they be guns that are not available in California, looking at the Glock 42 and the Springfield 911.

    What are the rules on buying used out of state?
  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23531

    Anything you buy out of state must be on the roster or roster exempt. New or used does not matter. Used guns get treated the same as new.

    That means no G42. No Springer 911.

    If you want those you must find a private seller in CA and pay the premium, and meet at a FFL for transfer.

    Welcome to Calguns.
    Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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    • #3
      Rifle ronin
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 1196

      It might just happen that either you or your wife's parents gift the perfect pistol.
      I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

      Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
      (Non caps intended)

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      • #4
        plumbum
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 5394

        Take a look at the S&W Shield - on roster and good shooters.

        The only used, off-roster guns that can be sent into CA from out of state are things that are Curio & Relic exempt (50+ years old).
        Originally posted by ysr_racer
        Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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        • #5
          cannon
          In Memoriam
          • Aug 2008
          • 8589

          Originally posted by Rifle ronin
          It might just happen that either you or your wife's parents gift the perfect pistol.
          To expand on the above.

          By law your (or your wife's) parents or your children who live out of state may send you an off roster pistol. As long as it is not an assault pistol to your local FFL.

          At the top of the page is a list of things that the pistol may not have. Over 10 round magazine, threaded barrel etc.

          You can always look through the classifieds here and meet the seller (No shipping) at the local FFL and transfer it to you.

          Keep asking questions and welcome to the forum.
          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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          • #6
            Wordupmybrotha
            From anotha motha
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2013
            • 6965

            If you buy used out of state, it must be shipped to an FFL, which you'll pay shipping. You'll go there, pay the DROS, pay FFL transfer fee, and sales tax. And the gun must be on the roster.

            If you buy used from a local gun shop, then there are DROS and sales tax, but no FFL transfer fee. Can be off roster.

            If you buy used from a private party here, pay the DROS, but there are no FFL transfer fee and no sales tax. Can be off roster.

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            • #7
              SkyHawk
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2012
              • 23531

              Originally posted by plumbum
              The only used, off-roster guns that can be sent into CA from out of state are things that are Curio & Relic exempt (50+ years old).
              C&R
              Olympic
              Single shot
              Single action

              Originally posted by Wordupmybrotha

              If you buy used from a local gun shop, then there are DROS and sales tax, but no FFL transfer fee. Can be off roster.
              .
              Can be off roster only if it is on CONSIGNMENT
              Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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              • #8
                JoyfulJoker
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2018
                • 757

                Where do you live? I just saw a used P365 and a used P320 on consignment at my local gun store. I just bought a new pistol and a new safe or I would have jumped on the 320. Be patient, things come around. My local gun store was cheaper than what I have seen on Calguns.

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                • #9
                  Wordupmybrotha
                  From anotha motha
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 6965

                  Originally posted by SkyHawk


                  Can be off roster only if it is on CONSIGNMENT
                  That's right

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                  • #10
                    Ora Serrata
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 1748

                    If you’re looking at small .380’s you can often find first generation Ruger LCPs for a “reasonable” California price (under $400) ppt

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                    • #11
                      DB>
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 822

                      Used Sig P238? On roster, available most anywhere, sometimes also non-CA versions pop up in the marketplace. Pretty much the same gun as the SA 911, just an older redesign of the even older Colt...
                      Last edited by DB>; 12-04-2019, 1:44 AM.

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                      • #12
                        The War Wagon
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10294

                        ANY Gen.3 S&W's still on the list!!!
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                        • #13
                          Lmo
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1191

                          "The Roster: Handguns Certified for Sale"
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                          • #14
                            Chewy65
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 5090

                            Originally posted by cannon
                            To expand on the above.

                            By law your (or your wife's) parents or your children who live out of state may send you an off roster pistol. As long as it is not an assault pistol to your local FFL.

                            At the top of the page is a list of things that the pistol may not have. Over 10 round magazine, threaded barrel etc.

                            You can always look through the classifieds here and meet the seller (No shipping) at the local FFL and transfer it to you.

                            Keep asking questions and welcome to the forum.
                            It is not as cut and dry. Pay for that gun and you and your family member are looking at felony charges. Also, your in laws cannot transfer to you, but to your wife. If they transfer to your wife for her to transfer to you, that is another violation.

                            Do some research. Start at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771
                            Last edited by Chewy65; 12-04-2019, 5:27 PM.

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                            • #15
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Originally posted by Wordupmybrotha
                              If you buy used from a local gun shop, then there are DROS and sales tax, but no FFL transfer fee. Can be off roster..
                              An FFL can't sell a non roster handgun to someone who is not exempt from the roster.
                              If you want an off roster pistol you'll probably end up buying it from a LEO whos department hasn't banned them from selling guns or from someone that bought one from a LEO.
                              If you have the budget go Walther - Even a S&W marked one is good. Stay away from the crapola pot metal ones. Newer polymer ones by Ruger seem to be good. They also have one that can be 9mm or 380.

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