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  • #61
    theLBC
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2017
    • 6544

    what would the owner do if somebody dropped a gun?

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    • #62
      plumbum
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 5394

      I’ve seen this in smaller stores - I’m sure the majority of people wouldn’t be an issue, but all it takes is one monkey....

      If I were buying a Glock 19: meh!
      Anything else I don’t want some counter monkey finger banging my gat.
      Originally posted by ysr_racer
      Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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      • #63
        us3
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1159

        Originally posted by carlborg
        I was at my LGS this weekend to pick up some gunsmith work. The store is small, and has a limited selection of handguns.
        Originally posted by DevilDawgJJ
        OP, is down in San Diego.

        For everyone that wants the shop revealed

        If the OP is being true and is in San Diego as DevilDawgJJ stated, it can only be 1 of 2 FFL's. There are only 2 (maybe 3) shops that fit that exact description in the entire county. (small place, gunsmithing on site)


        I'll never understand why someone would make a post about a shop and then NOT say what shop it is, it completely baffles me

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        • #64
          Spaffo
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 1273

          Exactly.

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          • #65
            Litespeeds
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 3260

            I would be very upset if a LGS let someone handle or dry fire my newly purchased gun that is supposed to be in their safe for the 10 day waiting time. New or used, the LGS should contact the owner and ask if it's ok to show the gun to a potential customer.

            I try never to do a PPT at a LGS with their own shooting range. I am sure some would take it out to shoot a few rounds if the gun is something that is not readily available in CA.

            Technically all you really need to do is to take the complete slide off and take it home and bring it back on the day you pick up your gun. The slide is not required to be held for the 10 days. This way you are guaranteed nobody would even think twice about touching your gun for the 10 day waiting period.

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            • #66
              Grumpyoldretiredcop
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2008
              • 6437

              I've only worked in one gun store... and saw it happen there. Didn't like it then, don't like it now, and if I found out that it happened with any of my firearms I'd out 'em and find another LGS... a more honest one.
              I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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              • #67
                Joseg1320
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2019
                • 73

                As far as I'm concerned, once a gun is in jail, it has been paid for, therefore it should be stored and not touched. Plain and simple. Letting a customer handle the gun you've already paid for is equivalent to taking your car to the dealer for maintenance and it turns out the dealer was letting customers test drive it. I'd be pissed.
                Last edited by Joseg1320; 11-27-2019, 10:06 AM.

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                • #68
                  wooshna
                  Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 186

                  I always use 2 locks one for the slide and one for the trigger go ahead look thats all you can do if my key doesn't work all hells going to break loose in that store. good thing my gun shop doesn't do shady things like that

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                  • #69
                    John Browning
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2006
                    • 8089

                    Originally posted by Rifle ronin
                    I posted earlier about liabilities. What if the customer got hurt, or ran out the door with it? By the time police and the court system handles things, your name could be attached to the firearm, without ever taking physical possession of it.
                    This is the most internet thing I have seen in awhile. What if it was stolen? Um...the shop would probably call the cops and report it. What if the person looking at it was hurt? How can you possibly hurt yourself with an unloaded Glock? Do you imagine that the gravely injured party would look at their cracked nail and demand the information on the owner of the weapon, the shop would produce it, and that a lawsuit would be filed? With all the real problems in the world, you have to be about eleven years old to think that either of these are real world problems.

                    It's not your gun until the deliver button is clicked. Just because you are in your 10 day wait, it does't mean that it's your gun. In principle it is, but in reality it isn't.

                    This is arguably bad form, it definitely bothers some people apparently and therefore might not be a good business practice. But holy cow, if you get bent out of shape that someone touched your Glock 17 Gen 3...you need help.
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                    Originally posted by KWalkerM
                    eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                    • #70
                      us3
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1159

                      Originally posted by John Browning
                      But holy cow, if you get bent out of shape that someone touched your Glock 17 Gen 3...you need help.

                      But, but, but,

                      what about this guys $6,000 Gen 3 17.. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...ight=agency+17


                      Does it have the same shop handling value as a new $500 Glock?









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                      • #71
                        Donny1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2341

                        You think gun shop employees don't fondle, show off and even shoot these guns on occasion during the waiting period? Naive.

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                        • #72
                          Citadelgrad87
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16823

                          Originally posted by us3
                          But, but, but,

                          what about this guys $6,000 Gen 3 17.. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...ight=agency+17


                          Does it have the same shop handling value as a new $500 Glock?









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                          • #73
                            John Browning
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2006
                            • 8089

                            Originally posted by us3
                            But, but, but,

                            what about this guys $6,000 Gen 3 17.. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...ight=agency+17


                            Does it have the same shop handling value as a new $500 Glock?









                            Been through enough competitions and courses to see that the least reliable gun there is some form of race-modded ultra-cool tatictato Glock.

                            Those high speed ultra-modded guns are already broken. Probably because someone looked at them or dry fired it while it was still in the store.
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                            Originally posted by KWalkerM
                            eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                            • #74
                              wichlaz
                              Member
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 124

                              I have a gun in "pre" jail. I locked it. It's waiting for the rifled I ordered so I can just pay one DROS. :P

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                              • #75
                                Charlie50
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1114

                                Man some of guys on this thread are kinda over the top OCD... molecules of other person on my weapon OMG! Obviously damage, change of parts, removal of factory equipped mag, handling of super rare collector piece is not cool but really. All in a tizzy about someone touching your plain jane whatever... get over it! OMG they dry fired my Glock, Smith, Kimber heavens it will ruin it fer gosh sakes. If the POS can't handle a bit of drool and fingerprints I would not want it. I personally always ask about warranty on every weapon I purchase. I hope you guys wash all the socks and underwear you got for Xmas - human hands touched it!
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