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  • LD1061
    Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2018
    • 287

    Standard magazine talk at CCW class

    I attended the classroom portion for renewal on Monday and the topic of "freedom week" mags came up. The instructor responded that you can only use them at home but it is a misdemeanor if you take them out in public. Wrong place to quote Michels but I do not see how even he can believe his statement when he says the are legal at home but not away from there. I personally do not see how this works.
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    igs
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 941

    Where did you take the renewal class at?
    ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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    • #3
      Mayor McRifle
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2013
      • 7667

      I would ask for my money back. Who knows what else he got wrong?
      Anchors Aweigh

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      • #4
        LD1061
        Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2018
        • 287

        The problem for us is this is what at least some law enforcement believes.

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        • #5
          tbc
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2011
          • 5955

          Standard magazine talk at CCW class

          Originally posted by LD1061
          The problem for us is this is what at least some law enforcement believes.


          And one of the reason we all must join NRA and CRPA to be protected from these guys.
          Last edited by tbc; 11-13-2019, 9:04 PM.

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          • #6
            LD1061
            Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2018
            • 287

            The instructor was not malicious about it .....sadly it is what he has been told or believes.

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            • #7
              castgold
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1531

              I was told the same thing by my IA. I should refer them to this thread so they can be more educated.

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              • #8
                LD1061
                Member
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2018
                • 287

                While sitting in the class listening to a wide variety of questions with some being pretty stupid for current permit holders, I could only think how better served they would be if they were on Calguns

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                • #9
                  woolybugger
                  Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 337

                  I was told almost 10 years ago at a range that every fire arm in california must be locked during transport and had assault weapon style destination clauses.
                  There is alot of fud around and my real fear is that alot of police officers dont have a good handle on our convoluted laws.

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                  • #10
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17594

                    My instructor said so many things wrong that I made a list at the time. Not only did he say you'll go to jail if you use an 11+ magazine, but he said that the hollow points cause damage because they expand in flight and he recommended Serpa holster he was wearing even though they are banned at many ranges due to safety concerns.

                    Pass the class, get CCW, know the law, avoid confrontation and situations where you could use your firearm...
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                    • #11
                      rudigan
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2061

                      My experience is fud and opinion guised as fact comes out of various instructors, it's the guys that want to convince you they are 100% correct about certain subjects that I take with a grain of salt.
                      Member & Contributor CRPA/NRA

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                      • #12
                        holdfast
                        Member
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 129

                        Originally posted by IVC
                        My instructor said so many things wrong that I made a list at the time. Not only did he say you'll go to jail if you use an 11+ magazine, but he said that the hollow points cause damage because they expand in flight and he recommended Serpa holster he was wearing even though they are banned at many ranges due to safety concerns.

                        Pass the class, get CCW, know the law, avoid confrontation and situations where you could use your firearm...
                        You've gotta be kidding about the hollow points! OMG

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                        • #13
                          unusedusername
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4124

                          What county was this in?

                          At least one county has a requirement that you can't carry 10+round mags with their permits even if you own them legally. Another county won't let you carry anything that was transferred under a roster exempt DROS transfer (such as SSE). Issuance agencies are allowed to add whatever restrictions on their permits that they want to.

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                          • #14
                            L84CABO
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8681

                            Originally posted by unusedusername
                            What county was this in?

                            At least one county has a requirement that you can't carry 10+round mags with their permits even if you own them legally. Another county won't let you carry anything that was transferred under a roster exempt DROS transfer (such as SSE). Issuance agencies are allowed to add whatever restrictions on their permits that they want to.
                            +1. He may be quoting an IA policy and not law.
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                            • #15
                              JoyfulJoker
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2018
                              • 755

                              My IA said they were fine. I recently went back to 10 on my P-01 because of the weight and I’m in SF often which has a ban. 10+1 plus a spare is fine. 16+1 plus a spare was clunky.

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