What am I missing?

[67Cuda]

I'm going to use obfuscation as much as I can in this post.

I was sitting on the ****ter at work and heard someone describe to someone else a visit to a relative in another state.
He returned this last weekend.
Ultimately, he said he had brought back, under 11lbs, of 300 Blackout and two 30 round mags in his checked luggage. For whatever reason, I believe the person.

Am I missing something, or did TSA miss something? True story and no it was not me.

[jgarden]

Should be fine in checked luggage i believe.

Potentially illegal under CA law. But TSA is federal, doubt they are looking for violations of CA law

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[Flintlock Tom]

TSA is Federal. I don't think they care to enforce state laws.
Even if they did, if the magazines are legal in the state he's flying out of how would they know (or care) if they are not legal in the state he's going to?

[P5Ret]

I don't think TSA can enforce any law. Every story I've read about finding a knife or something at a check point it is always local LE who handles it.

[67Cuda]

Thanks guys. I guess I've been beat down too long in this state with their, its against the law to import ammunition or high capacity magazines.
Apparently, if you fly it in, it's OK. Good info.

[Quiet]

Thanks guys. I guess I've been beat down too long in this state with their, its against the law to import ammunition or high capacity magazines.
Apparently, if you fly it in, it's OK. Good info.

It's still illegal.

It's just that TSA is not responsible for enforcing CA state laws.
So, as long as the contraband is transported in accordance with Federal laws/regulations, there is no reason for them to notify local (State/county/city) LE.

If local LE happens to get involved for whatever reason, then it can result in an arrest for illegal importation of the contrand items.

[d33pt]

Why would it be illegal anyway? Those are his legally owned 30 round mags from freedom week that he brought out of state then back home.

[audiophil2]

TSA is not required to actively search for CA illegal items but if it is discovered during a federal search they are obligated to alert local LEO. TSA has helped bust abalone poachers in CA among other CA related violations. There was a big child porn bust at SFO years ago. While not something that could fly a plane into a building it was still illegal on federal and state levels.
Gun mags are not a federal issue and do not have a negative impact at the state level so a pro-2a tsa employee could easily overlook it. Just like local leo often overlook switchblades. The paperwork is not worth it to them.

[ARDude]

Why would it be illegal anyway? Those are his legally owned 30 round mags from freedom week that he brought out of state then back home.

This used to be allowed, but no more. Once you leave the state with LCM's, you can not import them back.

[Quiet]

Why would it be illegal anyway? Those are his legally owned 30 round mags from freedom week that he brought out of state then back home.

This used to be allowed, but no more. Once you leave the state with LCM's, you can not import them back.

What ARDude said.


Starting 07-01-2017, the exemption [PC 32420] to CA large capacity magazines laws that allowed a person who legally owned/possess large capacity magazines to leave CA with those magazines and return to CA with those magazines was repealed.

The initial Court ordered injuction issued on 06-30-2017, did not bring this exemption back.

The recent Court ordered stay that went into effect on 04-05-2019, did not bring this exemption back.

Therefore...
It is CA legal for a person that legally owns/possess large capacity magazines to leave CA with those magazines, but CA illegal for that person to return to CA with those magazines (felony importation).


The intent for the repeal was to reduce the amount of lawfully owned/possessed large capacity magazines in CA.
It makes it so a person can legally leave CA with large capacity magazines, but can not legally return with those magazines.
The magazines have to be stored out-of-state or transferred out-of-state or made into permanently modified 10 round magazines prior to returning to CA.

[GW]

What a mess these laws are.
SMH

[IVC]

Why would it be illegal anyway? Those are his legally owned 30 round mags from freedom week that he brought out of state then back home.

They are not his legally owned magazines - read the OP.

Can the law be enforced now, after the importation? Yes - read the OP.

[IVC]

It's still illegal.

It's just that TSA is not responsible for enforcing CA state laws.
So, as long as the contraband is transported in accordance with Federal laws/regulations, there is no reason for them to notify local (State/county/city) LE.

Similar to marijuana, but with the role of CA and federal agencies reversed - pot is still illegal in CA, but only federal agencies will enforce it, so vast majority believe that "CA has legalized marijuana."

[Skip_Dog]

Sounds like some people did some illegal stuff and did not get caught. Sounds like a stupid risk to take. I think that these gun laws in Ca are B.S. but I would not do what he did. So to recap what was done was illegal and I would stay out of it.

[sarbiker]

What a mess these laws are.
SMH

Leads one to believe these scum bag legislators purposely promulgate these laws with the intent to be as confusing as possible...!!!

A previously law abiding citizen subject becomes a felon convicted of a process crime...!!! Good thing all the criminals are being released from prison, so our overlords won't need to waste the money on building reeducation camps and can spend that savings on free stuff for future voters ie ILLEGALS.....!!!!!