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  • American Muslim Gun Owner
    Member
    • Sep 2019
    • 149

    Calibers and Automotive Analogies

    Hello Everyone,

    Before proceeding, I want to point out that this is intentionally a very subjective conversation. There is no right or wrong. So no Ford vs Chevy vs Citoren please.

    I believe most would agree that when people are introduced to firearms, they are completely overwhelmed by the numbers and names associated with calibers. And while they don't do it intentionally, the people that are introducing them to firearms can often ramble on about all kinds of calibers with no point of reference for the newbie person. And the new person often ends up thinking that the larger a number sounds the larger the caliber must be, not knowing that often there is a decimal point in front of that number.

    If you were to describe some common calibers to person who was new to firearms, what analogies would you use?

    For example, I would say that the .308 Winchester is like the Chevy small-block of the centerfire rifle calibers because, like the Chevy SBC, it is a relatively cheap and very common caliber that is widely used; the ammo is in stock in every gun shop; there is tons of reloading data for all kinds of applications, ranging from hunting to military and long-range marksmanship; reloading is easier to get into because there is so much data available; and there is a good chance your buddy has some too.

    Any analogies you can think of?
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    OCEquestrian
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    • Jun 2017
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    I am not sure what the point of this thread is??
    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

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    • #3
      beanz2
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 12032

      All you need is a Hyundai.



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      • #4
        kcheung2
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 4387

        What's a small block Chevy?
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        • #5
          200Apples
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          • Dec 2011
          • 7217

          Don't take this personally, OP, but I don't like your username.
          .
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          • #6
            RustyIron
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 569

            Originally posted by 200Apples
            Don't take this personally, OP, but I don't like your username.

            Luckily, Calguns as the "ignore" feature.
            I don't like racists.

            AMF
            PLONK!

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19570

              Originally posted by OCEquestrian
              I am not sure what the point of this thread is??
              Ditto.

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              • #8
                superdave50
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 813

                Originally posted by RustyIron
                Luckily, Calguns as the "ignore" feature.
                I don't like racists.

                AMF
                PLONK!
                That word "racist" doesn't mean what you think it means but, yes it was an unnecessary comment apples made.

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                • #9
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 12388

                  Buick Wildcat
                  Dodge Magnum
                  Dodge Caliber
                  Chevy Blazer
                  Chrysler "300"
                  Ford "Bullit" Mustang
                  Chrysler Crossfire
                  Dodge Viper
                  Ford Taurus
                  Mitsubishi Colt
                  Chevrolet Beretta
                  AMC Marlin
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #10
                    plumbum
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2010
                    • 5394

                    I have extensive knowledge and an depth history of development of different firearms and piles of numbers and information on cartridges, projectiles, performance and hands-on experience with dozens and dozens of different platforms - and I know where the gas goes in my car...
                    Originally posted by ysr_racer
                    Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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                    • #11
                      OCEquestrian
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 6877

                      Originally posted by American Muslim Gun Owner
                      Hello Everyone,

                      Before proceeding, I want to point out that this is intentionally a very subjective conversation. There is no right or wrong. So no Ford vs Chevy vs Citoren please.

                      I believe most would agree that when people are introduced to firearms, they are completely overwhelmed by the numbers and names associated with calibers. And while they don't do it intentionally, the people that are introducing them to firearms can often ramble on about all kinds of calibers with no point of reference for the newbie person. And the new person often ends up thinking that the larger a number sounds the larger the caliber must be, not knowing that often there is a decimal point in front of that number.

                      If you were to describe some common calibers to person who was new to firearms, what analogies would you use?

                      For example, I would say that the .308 Winchester is like the Chevy small-block of the centerfire rifle calibers because, like the Chevy SBC, it is a relatively cheap and very common caliber that is widely used; the ammo is in stock in every gun shop; there is tons of reloading data for all kinds of applications, ranging from hunting to military and long-range marksmanship; reloading is easier to get into because there is so much data available; and there is a good chance your buddy has some too.

                      Any analogies you can think of?

                      You dont drive a white Audi and live in the North Hollywood area do you?
                      "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                      SAF life member
                      CRPA member

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                      • #12
                        Romeo_alpha01
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 2022

                        Honda Valkyrie?

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                        • #13
                          American Muslim Gun Owner
                          Member
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 149

                          Originally posted by kcheung2
                          What's a small block Chevy?
                          A .308.



                          Originally posted by 200Apples
                          Don't take this personally, OP, but I don't like your username.
                          Admitting you have a problem is the first step to a life-long friendship. Besides, I can't imagine why you'd have a problem with Americans.




                          Originally posted by The Gleam
                          Buick Wildcat
                          Dodge Magnum
                          Dodge Caliber
                          Chevy Blazer
                          Chrysler "300"
                          Ford "Bullit" Mustang
                          Chrysler Crossfire
                          Dodge Viper
                          Ford Taurus
                          Mitsubishi Colt
                          Chevrolet Beretta
                          AMC Marlin
                          Lol nicely done! This list might actually come in handy.




                          Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                          You dont drive a white Audi and live in the North Hollywood area do you?
                          I don't make enough for either of those things. For better or for worse.


                          Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                          I am not sure what the point of this thread is??
                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          Ditto.
                          Originally posted by Romeo_alpha01
                          Honda Valkyrie?
                          Originally posted by plumbum
                          I have extensive knowledge and an depth history of development of different firearms and piles of numbers and information on cartridges, projectiles, performance and hands-on experience with dozens and dozens of different platforms - and I know where the gas goes in my car...
                          Sorry gents. I failed at conveying my request. What I wanted was some sort of relate-able analogies for different calibers. So, the .308 being like a a small-block Chevy of calibers. 9mm is like the Toyota 4 cylinder. 300 winmag is like the 454 big block. etc.
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                          • #14
                            The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 12388

                            Originally posted by American Muslim Gun Owner
                            What I wanted was some sort of relate-able analogies for different calibers. So, the .308 being like a a small-block Chevy of calibers. 9mm is like the Toyota 4 cylinder. 300 winmag is like the 454 big block. etc.
                            Well, I would think a .454 Casull is akin to a 454 Chevy Big Block.
                            -----------------------------------------------
                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                            • #15
                              IVC
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 17594

                              Parallel universe 1: 9mm is a Yugo, it gets you from point A to point B. Most of the time. Especially if it's all downhill. 45 ACP is Ford Mustang. Unmistakably American and way better than any Euro-racer even if numbers show otherwise.

                              Paraller universe 2: Glock is a Yugo, cheap and cheap people swear by it because that's what they can afford. 9mm is a Ferrari, distinctly European and the best caliber since sliced bread. 45 ACP is a Buick from the 50s, huge, bulky, gas guzzling and completely unnecessary.

                              Real universe: cars are for transportation, guns are for shooting, caliber wars are for Internet ninjas...
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