California Rifle Storage

[TheCalifornian]

Will a shop steel cabinet cut it as gun storage with current laws?

Hope the answer is yes.

Okay.With a hasp and Master lock.

I take the current in a gun rack on the wall is a no-no.

They are older ones.

Mauser 7mm, Sears JC Higgins bolt action shotgun 12ga and Remington 22 from 50's.

Oops.Springfield 1892 too.

Thank you.

[Librarian]

There are no general state-level requirements for gun storage. (Unless I've forgotten a bill from this session that created such.)

There are result-based punishments if a minor gains access, or if one lives with a prohibited person and s/he gains access.

And there are some local jurisdictions with storage requirements.

[TheCalifornian]

Thanks.

None of those situations apply.

Good.

Area is fairly safe.Probably better to lock them up though.

Have to think on it.

[big red]

the "stack on" gun cabinet is advertised as meeting california requirements for gun storage and to be honest is not any better than what you are describing you have. In fact depending on how old your cabinet is it is probably thicker steel in the walls and roof than current gun cabinets. I think stack on goes on sale pretty often and come in a couple of sizes. Hopes this helps you.

[TheCalifornian]

Thanks

I will contact California CRPA I think it is and get the absolute rule.

Will contact local police department also.

They would be the ones having a fit about if they saw them and there was a problem.

Hard to get the final word I have found.

Gun shop will probably want to sell us something so I don't know but will ask.

[theLBC]

when i recently received a rifle through ppt, they asked if i had a safe that qualified under these "regulations".

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe

they did not require any proof of ownership, other than your signature.

as for what the actual laws are, i will defer to the librarian.

[Nvberinger]

I keep seeing all these gun safes easily broken in within minutes on You Tube.
Are there any reasonably priced that are unbreakable?

[C.G.]

If you are thinking a make-shift safe then hasp and lock is a no go. If I remember correctly a safe needs to have an internal locking mechanism with at least two (might be three) anchors. As mentioned before, Stack-On makes some compliant, reasonably priced gun storage cabinets.

[big red]

if you find one please let us know. Safes will slow people down not stop them. The best way to stop a thief should be to make him spend too much time getting in and so much noise by alarms, disco music, whatever that your neighbors will mob him to death before the cops arrive. Maybe find an abandoned bank and buy that safe but be prepared to get a divorce or learn to live in it in the back yard. I have spent a year talking to safe companies, vault companies, and experts and while i respect them I am thinking about building my own for the price it will eventually cost me. Good luck

[Librarian]

I keep seeing all these gun safes easily broken in within minutes on You Tube.

Are there any reasonably priced that are unbreakable?

No. There are not even any expensive ones that are "unbreakable". With enough time and determination, pretty much any box can be opened - the point of a safe is to either discourage the attempt or keep the burglar out while armed response is on the way.

Basic classification from Underwriter's Labs is
Residential Security Container - 5 minutes resisting tool attacks; most 'gun safes' are actually RSCs (e.g. Canon, Liberty, Fort Knox)
TL-15 - 15 minutes resisting tool attacks on the door
TL-30 - 30 minutes
etc.

See the sticky in the Firearms Accessories forum, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=135167

[Unforgiven]

Why on earth would you contact the police, to tell them you have firearms and a crappy safe?

I will contact California CRPA I think it is and get the absolute rule.

Will contact local police department also.

They would be the ones having a fit about if they saw them and there was a problem.

Hard to get the final word I have found.

Gun shop will probably want to sell us something so I don't know but will ask.[/QUOTE]

[Hockeytodd03]

Not to say that the higher price safes are better, but any thief can break into any safe with most of the tools we have in the house. Think grinders, crow bars and tipping them over. Get the best you can afford, and anchor it hopefully to the floor and a wall.

[warbird]

safes are like cars. the salesman wants to sell you the most expensive with the most bells and whistles that can foul up. and when you look at safes look at weight and where you can put it. that can add to the cost of shoring a floor up or moving your car out of the concrete floored garage. Always great to have a three hundred pound safe door bang into your car grille. Under six hundred pounds and not locked down to the foundation and two men with a dolly can move it out. It got moved in by you so it can be moved out by thieves with the same equipment. there is a lot to think about.