Firearms of unknown origin

[Quickdraw559]

[General]

There's a few of these sites.

Or DROS it first then pay for it.... not!!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiHrqW-8-jkAhWJr54KHXX5AfEQFjABegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hotgunz.com%2F&usg=AOvVaw2-KskNtJV0PpN2yn_7ThLt

[plumbum]

There are plenty of older firearms that have been in CA before the 4473 forms were required. Plenty of guns haven’t been through CA’s system. The law requires that the buyer do a background check during the purchase, and as long as you do your part, that’s a clean sale. I’ve met people who have legally resides in CA for years, and have never been in the DMV or other systems - not everything is on the government mainframes.

[Notpc]

There are plenty of older firearms that have been in CA before the 4473 forms were required. Plenty of guns haven’t been through CA’s system. The law requires that the buyer do a background check during the purchase, and as long as you do your part, that’s a clean sale. I’ve met people who have legally resides in CA for years, and have never been in the DMV or other systems - not everything is on the government mainframes.

So, just how does a "buyer" do a background check of the seller, or gun?

[KatMan53]

So, just how does a "buyer" do a background check of the seller, or gun?

PPT at a licensed FFL. Not the seller, mind you, but the gun serial will be run. If it comes up hot it will be seized. If not it will be processed as a legal PPT and registered in the buyer's name. The seller will have to show up and release the pistol for a hold at the FFL, however; so if there is a shady past to the firearm the seller may be getting a visit (besides losing the firearm).

[BigPimping]

Do the transfer. If anything shady comes up, it's on the seller. You have nothing to lose.

[cannon]

Seller or gun registered really don't matter to the State.

They check the firearm is not stolen and that the buyer is legal to own.

Millions of legal unregistered guns in Ca.

[M1NM]

Guns (long and hand) were sold for many years in CA on a simple face to face transaction. Zero paperwork was generated. I bought my first handgun at age 18 from a cop. Here's my $100 here's your gun - enjoy. In the 80s I bought a pair of S&W 38s from a retired Sheriff for $50 each - no paperwork.
Bottom line lots of guns in CA that they don't know about. They love to have them change hands so they get into the database.

[Calif Hunter]

Do the transfer. If anything shady comes up, it's on the seller. You have nothing to lose.

Unless you paid in full for the gun and then can't find the seller. If it is a friend, hopefully this won't be an issue.

[P5Ret]

Not too many people stupid enough to knowingly try to sell a stolen firearm through a FFL where they have to present their DL.

[Pofoo]

Not too many people stupid enough to knowingly try to sell a stolen firearm through a FFL where they have to present their DL.

True, but if you're the 2nd or 3rd owner, you may not know. Always a slight chance.

[Old Flash]

If you know the serial number, you can check this website to see if reported stolen: https://www.hotgunz.com/