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  • #16
    tbc
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5955

    Originally posted by Erion929





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    ^^^^^ That ^^^^^


    Or

    You can elaborate more on your current technique to better fix your low left.

    What was the distance?
    How low and how far to the left?

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    • #17
      Tango_Down
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 1175

      https://youtu.be/W0_wBXH3REw?t=297

      Jump to 5:00

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      • #18
        johnpatrick
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2019
        • 16

        Thanks for all the great replies!

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        • #19
          CWL
          Senior Member
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 1488

          Get a LaserLyte laser bullet insert in your caliber for your pistol and practice dry firing with it (don't go cheap or buy a bore sighter, they won't last).

          Every time you press the trigger, you'll get beam of light showing you where the shot will strike. This will help with trigger control and repetition of proper pistol grip and aiming.

          However, nothing beats human training. No amount of YouTubing will observe whether you have improper hold, change your grip, improper foot stance, body posture, etc. You could be developing & reinforcing bad habits without knowing it.
          Videos are only useful after you learn the correct fundamentals.
          Vae Victis

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          • #20
            subscriber
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 929

            Get really good hearing protection. The sound of the shot is more likely to cause flinching than discomfort in your hand. This assumes you know how to avoid shooting yourself and don't have to keep thinking about that.

            I find that for target shooting, a light grip, when there is zero attempt to counter recoil works better. Focus your dominant eye on the front sight, but focus your attention on where the sights are relative to the target; especially just as the shot breaks. You need to be able to say where the sights were. Also know as calling the shot. Pay no attention to the gun, or the recoil.

            Stay on the trigger after the shot breaks for a second or two. Don't mash the trigger, then think "its over" by immediately letting off. Act as if you are steering the bullet all the way to the target. Obviously, if you need to shoot faster, then you don't have lots of time for "follow through", but your accuracy goal is likely less (or target area is larger). Also, if you need to shoot faster, then you will be pulling the trigger faster.

            The video below has more practical than target shooting applicability. It none the less contains very important advice about breaking the trigger without disturbing the gun:

            Last edited by subscriber; 09-23-2019, 8:46 PM.

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            • #21
              lexo98
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2010
              • 673

              What firearm are you shooting?

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              • #22
                subscriber
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 929

                John,

                You are likely to benefit from this book: https://www.amazon.com/Handgun-Simpl...dp/0949997390/. It helped me when I got into bullseye in 1984. I no longer compete, but remember how useful the book was to me.

                Fit the pistol to your hand, such that it lines up naturally with your forearm, and the sight with each other, so you don't have to strain. Grip as high up as comfortable (without risking getting your hand in the way of the slide). Practice this grip until you achieve it without thinking about it.

                Place the finger on the trigger, such that the gun does not move left or right when you load the trigger. Squeeze the trigger directly to the rear.

                Stand in such a position, that if you were to aim at the target and then close your eyes for 5 seconds, the guns would still be on the bull when you reopen your eyes. If the gun drifts off, adjusts your stance so you can be as relaxed as possible and "have the gun aim itself".

                Experiment. Analyze the effect of different grip, stance and trigger let off, etc. Focus on shooting. Forget about what you will do when you get home.

                Use more than one ammo type, as ammo might affect your results on target. Now, you have not stated what gun and caliber you are shooting. Nor, if terrible is over 2" at 10 yards; or over 12". If you are shooting 1" groups at 10 yards, but want to halve that (or double the distance), then ammo is more likely to matter. If you are shooting wider than a foot groups at 10 yards, then some fundamentals are likely broken.

                Hint: Start at short range (no more than 10 yards) so you can see the holes in the target. Shoot at the whole white backside of the target, so you can see you sights. Care more about sight to sight alignment and trigger release, than how small the ten ring is.

                If you aim center mass at a large black bull, chances are you will loose your sights and shoot badly. The longer you aim, the worse it gets. Either get a lighter shade or outline target, or adjust your sights so you can aim under the black bull.

                Shoot deliberately, but don't try too hard. Aim for good enough, not perfection. Understand what is happening, and build on that.

                If you are target shooting, is that with a .22? That would be the best place to start.
                Last edited by subscriber; 09-23-2019, 9:10 PM.

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                • #23
                  johnpatrick
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 16

                  Originally posted by lexo98
                  What firearm are you shooting?
                  S&W M&P Shield 9mm

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                  • #24
                    subscriber
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 929

                    Originally posted by johnpatrick
                    S&W M&P Shield 9mm
                    That makes hearing protection even more important. Without the noise, the recoil of a properly gripped 9 mm pistol can be ignored. It serves as a sign that the shot has been fired. Now the question is, did the bullet go close to where you wanted it... If not, why not?

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                    • #25
                      Jesse 2
                      Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 208

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                      • #26
                        bigmike82
                        Bit Pusher
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3876

                        When target shooting, big, full breaths (not the 'fill every square inch of my chest cavity breath, but the full lung one), then a relatively slow (but not uncomfortably so) exhale, then a steady squeeze and bang. Rinse, lather, repeat.
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                        • #27
                          lexo98
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 673

                          Originally posted by johnpatrick
                          S&W M&P Shield 9mm
                          Dry fire and you will probably notice your pushing the trigger to the left just a bit when pulling the trigger.

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                          • #28
                            Harry Ono
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 965

                            take a look at the Target Diagnosic chart, where are your shots landing ?


                            Not hitting where you want? Use our diagnosis tool to figure out what is wrong and how to fix it. Plus the top three most common shooting problems.

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                            • #29
                              hermosabeach
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19288

                              Consider a class?

                              Top people all have coaches-
                              Shooters
                              Golfers
                              NASCAR drivers


                              Formal training is huge for improving


                              Appleseed is a great program and inexpensive

                              Frontsight is cheap and good training too - you do have to drive to Nevada and pay for hotels and such.
                              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                              • #30
                                Jesse 2
                                Member
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 208

                                Pistol Accuracy

                                Originally posted by bigmike82
                                When target shooting, big, full breaths (not the 'fill every square inch of my chest cavity breath, but the full lung one), then a relatively slow (but not uncomfortably so) exhale, then a steady squeeze and bang. Rinse, lather, repeat.


                                Thanks! This technique should provide 5 seconds of steady aiming. I exhaled too quickly to bottom of breathing cycle, but the pause only lasts 2 seconds before I start losing consciousness


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                                Last edited by Jesse 2; 09-23-2019, 11:19 PM.

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