Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

question about CA roster

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Sam1
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 764

    question about CA roster

    so I just purchased a sig pro from out of state and the ca doj lists the following as legal

    SP2022 (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.8" 9m

    so what does this fall under?
    sig states that it's stainless but painted "nitron" does nitron/black have to be on the list to be legal?



    Last edited by Sam1; 04-26-2009, 9:25 AM.
  • #2
    Greg-Dawg
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 7793

    Originally posted by Sam1
    ...so what does this fall under?
    Whatever your FFL says.

    Comment

    • #3
      9mmlaw
      Member
      • Jul 2002
      • 254

      The Sig 2022 is only available with Nitron finish, ie Blued. You are fine, the gun you bought is on the list.

      Comment

      • #4
        socalgunrunner
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 614

        Originally posted by 9mmlaw
        The Sig 2022 is only available with Nitron finish, ie Blued. You are fine, the gun you bought is on the list.
        ^ What he said. ^
        "People crushed by law, have no hopes but from power. If laws are their enemies, they will be enemies to laws; and those who have much to hope and nothing to lose, will always be dangerous" - Edmund Burke (1777)

        Comment

        • #5
          Vin496
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2008
          • 8804

          Be aware we recently had another member who's FFL would not accept the gun A Sig 220(nitron SS), because the FFL did not see a SS finish on the gun.

          Even though your gun is on the roster, the color/material description has been known to cause some confusion amongst FFLs.

          May not affect you at all, but just a heads up.
          I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

          and

          If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

          Comment

          • #6
            Jeff P
            Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 388

            I don't mean to Jack the thread. But this issue of the pistol finish is total BS. The mechanism/firearm is test, not the finish. Sorry for the rant.
            Very interesting!!
            Uhh.ohh, wifes home gotta go....

            Jeff P

            Comment

            • #7
              halifax
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4440

              I bought a P226 online before I had my FFL. I could not find a dealer to do the transfer because of the Nitron finish

              Two things:

              Very difficult to "blue" SS.

              The actual model is P226BSS, meaning blued stainless steel. That is the model that was submitted for testing according to SIG.

              Finally found a dealer that understood this.

              Good luck.
              Jim


              sigpic

              Comment

              • #8
                dfens
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 942

                Yes the finish does play into the list. It's a big headache that we have to deal with. On some guns they only come in one finish color frame and or slide so their is no question if it is or isn't on the list. But the list description can be confusing when a FFL is trying to read it.

                For instance Jeff if finish wasn't a issue then why do Sig two-tones have to be listed separately? Part of the problem the manufactor calls it a different model name therefore they get away with making sure they can extort more money.

                The Sig 2022 comes in a all black finish which is on the list or a two tone model. Now if the frame was say Olive Drab green and it wasn't submitted to the DOJ, guess what you can't buy it.

                While back was looking at a Ed-Brown, just looking and the one I wanted only came in a bare stainless steel finish. In other states you can buy what they call a Gen III finish which is a nice looking glossy black finish. The only way for me to get one is buy the one on the list then send it back on my dime and pay to have a new gun refinished. No way, too much time and extra money.

                Comment

                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44653

                  Originally posted by Jeff P
                  I don't mean to Jack the thread. But this issue of the pistol finish is total BS. The mechanism/firearm is test, not the finish. Sorry for the rant.
                  It is idiotic, but it is also the way the Regs for the Roster were approved. The finish matters, legally.

                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    HowardW56
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 5901

                    Originally posted by Jeff P
                    I don't mean to Jack the thread. But this issue of the pistol finish is total BS. The mechanism/firearm is test, not the finish. Sorry for the rant.

                    The entire roster is Bull****

                    Last edited by HowardW56; 04-26-2009, 2:19 PM.
                    sigpic

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Jeff P
                      Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 388

                      Well then, there seems to be a need to get an Amendment to remove 12131.5 (a) 1. And maybe all of 12131.5.
                      I would like to read an explanation from the State about how finishes and color effect the operation of the pistols mechanics and or safety.
                      I watched a program on TV from a California testing lab and the tested pistol pasted all the drop tests except one, the testing personal knew which drop test was going to fail this pistol. Any guess??
                      But never in the test did the finish of the pistol come into question about the safety performance.
                      Very interesting!!
                      Uhh.ohh, wifes home gotta go....

                      Jeff P

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        Sam1
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 764

                        thanks for the replies, I hope I don't have to explain the slide finish to my FFL. They all ready received it on saturday(checked tracking number) so I'll stop by tomorrow to see what they say. hopefully I'm able to take it home in 10 days if they get suspicious should I try to convince them it's stainless steel protected by sigs nitron finish or say it's blued? I agree with everyone, the roster is a bunch of bull

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Librarian
                          Admin and Poltergeist
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 44653

                          Originally posted by Jeff P
                          Well then, there seems to be a need to get an Amendment to remove 12131.5 (a) 1. And maybe all of 12131.5.
                          I would like to read an explanation from the State about how finishes and color effect the operation of the pistols mechanics and or safety.
                          I watched a program on TV from a California testing lab and the tested pistol pasted all the drop tests except one, the testing personal knew which drop test was going to fail this pistol. Any guess??
                          But never in the test did the finish of the pistol come into question about the safety performance.
                          The Roster isn't about safety.
                          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          UA-8071174-1