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  • Quickdraw559
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 1891

    50 Beowulf vs 450 BM

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  • #2
    punkur67
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 312

    Good read here. I was set on a Beowulf till I read this. I am now going to build a 450 Bushmaster

    Looking for a heavy hitting cartridge to use in an AR platform and can't decide between the 450 Bushmaster vs 458 SOCOM vs 50 Beowulf? The best choice is

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    • #3
      BrassCase
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2011
      • 3191

      I have a 458 SOCOM. It uses the same bullets as the 45-70 so if you reload you can "borrow" bullets from your 45-70 friends. I have a lot of 45-70 friends.
      I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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      • #4
        dozer wright
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 2764

        I have a 50 Beowulf upper parts are proprietary. I couldn't find the Gas block I wanted and ended up machining down the one on the upper to allow a FullFloating handguard . Generally order Underwood ammo no hiccups whatsoever but Upper gets used once in great while.

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        • #5
          Jimi Jah
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2014
          • 18947

          I thought about a 450 AR but decided on the 350 Legend. That ammo is much cheaper to shoot and still leaves a big hole.

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          • #6
            plumbum
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2010
            • 5394

            I’d be down for a .450 upper for my FA-CA7, but I’d likely just load it down to .44 Mag levels.
            Originally posted by ysr_racer
            Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19566

              The 458 has a few options

              Tromix allows all lugs to stay in place

              Others remove lugs so the bolt fails in 500-1500 rounds...


              I would suggest that this is a lot of money for a goof


              I went with 458 Socom
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                Quickdraw559
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 1891

                Ended up going with the .50 Beowulf almost solely because it’s a .50cal and I don’t own one yet. I understand the 450BM seems to be a flatter shooting round, but this will never be used for hunting and no plans for self-defense.

                I don’t reload so bullet interchangeability doesn’t really matter to me. I’ll probably buy 500 rounds and spend the next year or two popping them off.

                I went with Bear Creek Arsenal. Yea I know, super cheap and busted for hiring illegals, but it should do everything I ask of it for under $300.



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                • #9
                  plumbum
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2010
                  • 5394

                  Maybe I’m just being fussy, but the Beowulf having a smaller rebated rim than the bushmaster sounds like the bolt face should be more durable and the extractor is thicker - am I off with this idea?
                  Originally posted by ysr_racer
                  Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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                  • #10
                    Quickdraw559
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 1891

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                    • #11
                      Epaphroditus
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 4888

                      450bushmaster.net

                      It's a hoot to shoot. I reload so use the same projectiles in 4 different firearms and 3 chamberings.

                      Still trying to locate an adapter for my silencer. Then to work on a subsonic load.
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                      • #12
                        C.G.
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 8235

                        I think that either the .458 Socom or the .50 Beowulf is a better choice unless you do not reload. .458 Socom for variety of bullets and .50 Beowulf for a bigger hole.
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                        • #13
                          desrt2
                          Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 319

                          I have both.
                          The .450 and .50 are very similar in size.
                          The .50 put some wear on my shoulder after 20 rounds. I'm 6', 220 for reference. I could mitigate the recoil by experimenting with the buffer but it works, is reliable and I'm not going to put 1000's of round thru it.
                          A better muzzle brake might help out.
                          But that's okay. It's not a plinking round. It costs about $60/box of 20 rounds.
                          The .50 has a beefed-up extractor.
                          I got the complete upper from bear Creek and it functions just fine.
                          There's probably much more bullet selection for the .450.
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                          • #14
                            Jimi Jah
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 18947

                            Ran my 350 Legend yesterday. It's a big bang like 450. At 50 cents per round I can shoot more. I do need to put a brake and gas adjuster on it. My shoulder is sore today.

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                            • #15
                              CoopsDad
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1710

                              I have a 16.5" upper that's pretty tame with a decent brake; you can shoot it all day and the recoil is like a 12 gauge dove load. Without the brake, though, it's pretty ugly. A 10 round box will leave you bruised.

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