I know that there are some shooting ranges that will let customers rent fully automatic weapons for supervised use while at that range. What about suppressors? Let's say a person owned some land and wanted to start an outdoor shooting range with proper backstops and whatnot but noise was a concern because there was a residential area or a public use area not too far away. Would it be possible for that range to rent suppressors either for attachment to a customer's own gun or perhaps for use on a rental gun? In California? In other states?
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Could a shooting range rent out suppressors?
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It was my understanding that not all guns work correctly with silencers correctly. Won't cycle correctly? -
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Silencer. Hiram Maxim called it a silencer, that's good enough for me.
As for legally, I'm not sure what the rules are regarding "lending" NFA stuff. ATF like to use the phrase "in control" a lot, which generally means next to the person borrowing it. It's probably why machine gun rental ranges want their employee with you even if you have more machine gun experience than they do.
Regardless, I would never allow my cans on a customer's gun. Too much chance of them half-assing muzzle devices like a 3 lug mount. You can't tell by looking at it if it's in spec, or even compatible with your can mount. Direct thread mounts need to be tightened occasionally or they will unscrew themselves, and you get baffle strikes. And inevitably people will forget how hot those bastids get and start suing you because they got severe burns.Comment
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It’s a muffler
I would be concerned about liability
Over gas a semi auto rifle
Have to have a customer remove a brake or flash hider- how many customers can remove a brake???
Install and check that the threads are concentric with the bore- if a round hits the baffles- it will cause damage
If everyone has a muffler- it is good- If 1 person does not, then its the same as a straight piped porsche or harley..... you can hear your gun- just theirs
If noise in an issue- shooting tubes like they use in the Nordic countries.
A tube with the inside lined with carpet
Shooter shoots with muzzle inside the 3’ tubeLast edited by hermosabeach; 08-26-2019, 5:35 PM.Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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i rent out my silencers. ya form 1 2 3 or 4 one and you will be typing silencer and not suppressor so those that get bent probably never saw those forms.
damaging a suppressor is no big deal. ive had baffle strikes. just order new parts and charge the customer for damage. a barrel is strong. a thin silencer is weak. non issue as the weakest part is farthest away and bends instead of explodes.
all nfa items must be in control of the owner or responsible person so they cannot be handed out unless there was a way to deny exit from the premises. not likely to have that happen.
i let clients use my suppressors on thier guns. i even have pistons for guns i dont own.
i also let clients put thier uppers on my selectfire lowers or install auto sears in thier host guns. ive got setups for ar hk and glocks.sigpic
Private 10 acre range rentals
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If you have a manufacturer SOT I guess you can order baffles, but if the tube gets messed up, fixing it can be delicate work. If a welded rifle can gets messed up it's basically a write-off because the manufacturers likely won't stand behind a warranty on rented cans.
If OP was thinking of renting silencers as an ordinary non-SOT it would be a nightmare. Buying new cans, which you'll probably need to do often with a business like that, takes the better part of a year. I'm a week short of 11 months waiting on my current one.
When it cools off, I may pay Phil a visit to rent a 7.62 can.
edit: Also might have to look into picking up one of those Flitelite belt fed uppers...Last edited by sigstroker; 08-25-2019, 1:31 AM.Comment
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Poway Weapons and Gear claim they have silencer rentals "coming soon": https://www.weaponsandgearrange.com/...rearm-rentals/
Scroll down to the bottom of "long guns".
"Soon", since 2016...
I thought silencers were illegal in CA?Comment
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^^ nother guy that doesn't know that they are called suppressors no such thing as silencers. Probably calls large caps high caps (LOL)Comment
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Here is another guy that does not bother to go to the link provided, where he would notice the PW&G range refers to "silencers rentals". So, not my terms.
Silencers do not make guns silent, yet Silencerco and Dead Air Silencer Co manufacture and sell "silencers". The joke is on you.
Explore Dead Air’s premium suppressors for rifles and pistols. Learn about our silencers, find a dealer, and see why we’re the leader in sound suppression.
If I want to call suppressors "mufflers", are you going to correct me again because that is what you do? "Correct" people while using a disdainful tone; because you value post-count over everything else; even when you have nothing of substance to contribute to the discussion?
I offer information pertaining to the OP's question, and you do the equivalent of correcting grammar. Makes one wonder if you were blessed with a standard capacity cranium. Speaking of capacity; there are no high cap mags; only standard capacity. What is a large cap?Last edited by subscriber; 08-25-2019, 6:06 AM.Comment
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Well at least calling it a "silencer" connotes a sound suppressor. Whereas, just "suppressor" could be referring to a flash suppressor...
So, no such thing as a suppressor; unless it is preceded by sound or flash.
Its all in the context, you say? That is because someone called it a silencer
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