Oh damnit...

[jumbopanda]

So I went against my better judgement and bought one of Sarco's (milsurp?) LPKs. It cost $45, only slightly cheaper than current production LPKs. Well it turns out that it does not come with a pistol grip, the trigger is creepier than the Adams Family and makes my RRA stock trigger feel like butter, and the other stuff just felt rough and not of very good quality. The takedown and pivot pins feel loose and the trigger guard roll pin was so tight that I felt I was going to hammer my receiver into pieces before it would go all the way in.

I guess this is a good time to get an upgraded trigger, so I don't care too much about that. I will be getting new takedown and pivot pins, which are $3 each, what a waste of money.

So for $45 I got the following usable parts: bolt catch, magazine catch, pistol grip screw, springs and pins, and an M16 selector. What's kinda interesting about that selector is that you can take out and install the trigger mechanism while the selector is already in, just turn it to the third position.

[Joe]

i have tried to save a couple bucks on a LPK and have gotten a piece of crap also. this should be a lesson to everyone, just buy a RRA LPK for like 59 shipped and be done with it.

[Blacktail 8541]

I've had really good experiences with White Oak Armory lower parts, Very high quality. I get them thru ADCO. You can get the full parts kit or one without the trigger assembly.

[blkA4alb]

and an M16 selector.

Uh, I sure hope you do not have an M16 selector, much less installed. If you do remove and get rid of it immediatly. Constructive possession applies to machine gun parts.

[blacklisted]

Just get rid of the LPK and count it as a lesson learned. Especially if it has an M16 selector...

[jumbopanda]

The selector is illegal to possess? I thought the auto sear is the only part that's forbidden. Don't some people use M16 bolt carriers in AR15s?

Well hooray, if it is illegal, then thats another part down the toilet. What a waste of money

[Joe]

i think m16 upper parts are ok, but NO m16 lower parts are ok. someone will correct me if im wrong

ps, i have an extra standard pistol grip if you need one. you can have it for the cost of shipping.

[blkA4alb]

No no no, the M16 carrier is fine. NO trigger components are allowed. You're dealing with federal issues here, I suggest you edit your posts and get rid of that selector.

[jumbopanda]

Tossed it. I should complain to Sarco for selling this stuff

[madjack956]

Straight from the Bushmaster website

A Bushmaster Statement Regarding Machinegun PARTS

BATF's position is that if your AR15 type rifle contains even one M16 component, it is a Machine Gun. If you own an AR15 from any manufacturer, check to make sure there are no M16 components in its assembly. If there are, remove them immediately; machine them to AR configuration or have them replaced and destroy the M16 components. Refer to the illustrations below to determine if you have M16 components in your assemblies. If you have any questions about your parts, give us a call and we'll be glad to supply you with the legally acceptable parts.

the illustration showed the bolt carrier
so be carefull, it ain't worth it...check out the illustration on the website. it shows you how to I.D. M16 parts if you don't know how..

[EBWhite]

Bushmaster is wrong. m16 parts are legal in an ar-15. If the gun only shoots 1 bullet per trigger pull- then it is not a machine gun. m16 upper parts do not make the gun a MG- only the sear in the lower would allow a machine gun to be created. Bushmaster is full of it

A Bushmaster Statement Regarding Machinegun PARTS

BATF's position is that if your AR15 type rifle contains even one M16 component, it is a Machine Gun. If you own an AR15 from any manufacturer, check to make sure there are no M16 components in its assembly. If there are, remove them immediately; machine them to AR configuration or have them replaced and destroy the M16 components. Refer to the illustrations below to determine if you have M16 components in your assemblies. If you have any questions about your parts, give us a call and we'll be glad to supply you with the legally acceptable parts.

the illustration showed the bolt carrier
so be carefull, it ain't worth it...check out the illustration on the website. it shows you how to I.D. M16 parts if you don't know how..

[blkA4alb]

Bushmaster is wrong. m16 parts are legal in an ar-15. If the gun only shoots 1 bullet per trigger pull- then it is not a machine gun. m16 upper parts do not make the gun a MG- only the sear in the lower would allow a machine gun to be created. Bushmaster is full of it

Er, not quite. M16 carriers are perfectly legal to own and use, colt ships their uppers with M16 carriers. (I'm agreeing with you, just reiterating it.)

Having any of the fire control components (trigger, sear, disconnector, safety selector, hammer) is not good. Constructive posession applies to machine gun components, unlike AW parts.

This is not an area to tread lightly in guys.

[ohsmily]

A Bushmaster Statement Regarding Machinegun PARTS

BATF's position is that if your AR15 type rifle contains even one M16 component, it is a Machine Gun. If you own an AR15 from any manufacturer, check to make sure there are no M16 components in its assembly. If there are, remove them immediately; machine them to AR configuration or have them replaced and destroy the M16 components. Refer to the illustrations below to determine if you have M16 components in your assemblies. If you have any questions about your parts, give us a call and we'll be glad to supply you with the legally acceptable parts.

the illustration showed the bolt carrier
so be carefull, it ain't worth it...check out the illustration on the website. it shows you how to I.D. M16 parts if you don't know how..

This has been gone over MANY times...the bolt carrier is OK to have...Bushmaster is NOT the ATF and they are wrong on this issue.

[madjack956]

Thanks for the education gentlemen...

[Turbinator]

For roll pins, I suggest crimping them slightly but firmly with a pair of pliers before installing them into a receiver. You may wish to crimp one end slightly so as to create a tapered effect. This will make installation a lot easier.

Turby