Leaving California

[CD3]

If a person leaves california and moves to a free state.. Does registering your firearms ( handguns ) remove them from california's system ? or do you need to request to have them removed.. basically I want no ties to this place when I'm gone..

[Dan_Eastvale]

You said 'free' state. You don't register firearms in a 'free' state. Just take them with you. CA has no jurisdiction over your firearms if you move out.
Just forget about CA DOJ. They no longer exist to you.

[RickD427]

There is no mechanism to remove DROS/registration information from the AFS.

The AFS is a historical records system. Even if you move out of state, the fact that you completed a DROS or registration on a particular date remains a historical event.

You can submit a "No Longer in Possession" form (BOF 4546) to DOJ indicating that you are no longer a resident of California. This form will not remove your records, but will append the records to show you are no longer a resident.

[ja308]

There is no mechanism to remove DROS/registration information from the AFS.

The AFS is a historical records system. Even if you move out of state, the fact that you completed a DROS or registration on a particular date remains a historical event.

You can submit a "No Longer in Possession" form (BOF 4546) to DOJ indicating that you are no longer a resident of California. This form will not remove your records, but will append the records to show you are no longer a resident.

Good correct info Thank You .

At this point its probably better to leave all the records in place, as Im thinking it gives California the impression there are more gun owners than actual numbers.
Is there a downside ?

OP once settled in your free state give us a few updates with positive and negatives. If you are not too busy having fun and getting wealthy !

[Howie44]

You said 'free' state. You don't register firearms in a 'free' state. Just take them with you. CA has no jurisdiction over your firearms if you move out.
Just forget about CA DOJ. They no longer exist to you.

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[RickD427]

Good correct info Thank You .

At this point its probably better to leave all the records in place, as Im thinking it gives California the impression there are more gun owners than actual numbers.
Is there a downside ?

OP once settled in your free state give us a few updates with positive and negatives. If you are not too busy having fun and getting wealthy !

Assuming the owner remains in possession of the weapons, I don't really see a downside. The general consensus from previous threads is that there is no real benefit to the form.

At the same time, it may actually be advantageous not to submit the form in the event the OP returns to California. Both the CCW and Carrying a Loaded weapon statutes provide a misdemeanor penalty for a non-aggravated first offense if the weapon is registered and a felony penalty if not.

However, if the weapon(s) are no longer in the OP's possession (Lost, Stolen, or Sold), then the submission of the form may help prevent a "Door Knock" or "Warrant Service" if the weapon is later used in a crime.

[sigstroker]

I recommend Washington or Massachusetts.

[CheapBloke]

I recommend Washington or Massachusetts.

No no WA, they turning into CA gun laws

[kcheung2]

If you’re moving to a free state, think like a free person. Don’t bring your California thinking with you with all this registration junk.

[Oldmandan]

Research used gun prices where you’re moving to. Some of the guns we buy in CA for top dollar are almost worthless in other states. Best to sell them off here if you can.

Springfield XD is an example... $200 gun outside CA....

[ja308]

Assuming the owner remains in possession of the weapons, I don't really see a downside. The general consensus from previous threads is that there is no real benefit to the form.

At the same time, it may actually be advantageous not to submit the form in the event the OP returns to California. Both the CCW and Carrying a Loaded weapon statutes provide a misdemeanor penalty for a non-aggravated first offense if the weapon is registered and a felony penalty if not.

However, if the weapon(s) are no longer in the OP's possession (Lost, Stolen, or Sold), then the submission of the form may help prevent a "Door Knock" or "Warrant Service" if the weapon is later used in a crime.

Thanx Rick-- I had not considered that !

[DrewN]

I mean, this true for a ton of guns, but I wouldn't count on being able to replace everything and turn a profit. Old Smiths sell for 3 or 4 hundred more in California,but that doesn't mean that pre 27 will be easy to replace.

[Jimi Jah]

You said 'free' state. You don't register firearms in a 'free' state. Just take them with you. CA has no jurisdiction over your firearms if you move out.
Just forget about CA DOJ. They no longer exist to you.

Yes they do if you ever come back with a firearm or intend to shoot here. Those records are permanent and will survive the next ice age.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Yes they do if you ever come back with a firearm or intend to shoot here. Those records are permanent and will survive the next ice age.

In the 50+ years ias a CA resident I have never been asked by law enforcement for a s/n check. And out of staters can bring legal guns to CA. Even if there would be a reason to check s/n and your license is out of state your name matches the record. You simply say you moved. Officially, the DMV knew I'm not a CA resident when the Utah DMV
punched a hole in my CA drivers licence. You don't have to notify them when you leave either nor the CA tax board. Only on the last tax return.