BBRAW question (changing BB to or from Raddlock?)

[tradecraft]

There's an intriguing product that member protohyp just launched (no affiliation) that's built to work with an AR bullet button, but not a Raddlock.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1370979&highlight=

However, the way I interpret the phrasing of: "Any alteration to the release mechanism converts the assault weapon into a different weapon from the one that was registered" leads me to believe that Raddlock users cannot change to a regular BB. Any thoughts?

[1911su16b870]

Time will tell and case law will be show if CA DOJ's interpretation of changing the magazine release on a registered AW makes/does not make a new "non-registered" AW.

[foxtrotuniformlima]

IANAL but the way I see it the Radlock is a type of BB. Removing one and installing the other still makes it a BBRAW. ( that is assuming it is a BBRAW to start with )

[etwinam]

You can swap a Radlock to a Bullet button if you want but you cannot swap it out to a regular release or turn the radlock to "freedom mode".

[Jedediah Munroe]

California Code of Regulations, title 11, division 5, chapter 39, article 2, section 5477(b) allows for repairs and replacement of the bullet button mechanism.

From the DOJ website

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs#16b

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[tradecraft]

California Code of Regulations, title 11, division 5, chapter 39, article 2, section 5477(b) allows for repairs and replacement of the bullet button mechanism.

From the DOJ website

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs#16b

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Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

[saki302]

Just a random thought- what if you put on one of those ambi release mag catches but leave the bullet button in place?
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[1911su16b870]

Just a random thought- what if you put on one of those ambi release mag catches but leave the bullet button in place?
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This...

Time will tell and case law will be show if CA DOJ's interpretation of changing the magazine release on a registered AW makes/does not make a new "non-registered" AW.

no one wants to be the un-prepared "that guy" regarding case law...

[ar15barrels]

Just a random thought- what if you put on one of those ambi release mag catches but leave the bullet button in place?

Neither the law or the regulations prohibit that as long as you leave the bullet button (which it was registered with) in place.

[RANGER295]

Time will tell and case law will be show if CA DOJ's interpretation of changing the magazine release on a registered AW makes/does not make a new "non-registered" AW.

IMHO we may not see that case law anytime soon for a variety of reasons. First of all, I have heard that if a LEO runs a gun it does not show the registration date so most will likely not know the difference between a BBRAW and a older RAW. Many LEO may not even know there is a difference so we may not get an arrest based on that even for a total BB removal.

Second, and more on point to the OP, if you change one type of BB for another, a LEO would not have any way to tell that. The only way I could see this coming up is if someone gets pinched for something else and somehow the DOJ gets involved or a DA contacts DOJ asking for registration pictures.

Third, DOJ may not want this going to trial. They can make regs all they want but if one of us got pinched for swapping BB styles it would potentially challenge at least their regs at large and possibly the whole law. They are going to want to establish case law with a scumbag that uses the weapon in some kind of crime which is highly unlikely with a RAW given the type of person that actually registers.

This is based on nothing other than my musings...