Receiver only when bought if moving

[Q]

If a receiver was drosed in CA. Never had a stock on it.

Does the dros here affect the receiver if it is moved out of state?

Is it considered a rifle in another state anyway even though it never had a stock on it?

[cplnak1]

[beanz2]

If a receiver was drosed in CA. Never had a stock on it.

Does the dros here affect the receiver if it is moved out of state?

Is it considered a rifle in another state anyway even though it never had a stock on it?

In a free state, just build it into an SBR. Form 1 eFile wait is only 2 weeks for individuals, 1 month for trusts.


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[B.J.F.]

A receiver is a receiver, if not previously built into a rifle a receiver can be either.

Ask your local FFL to check their gunbook, if they logged it in as a receiver and it logged out as a receiver as most do. You can build it as a pistol.

From the MFG, they would log the receiver as either a pistol or receiver.

ATF only cares what it was built into when it was built

[tehDiceman]

A receiver is a receiver, if not previously built into a rifle a receiver can be either.

Ask your local FFL to check their gunbook, if they logged it in as a receiver and it logged out as a receiver as most do. You can build it as a pistol.

From the MFG, they would log the receiver as either a pistol or receiver.

ATF only cares what it was built into when it was built

FUD

No, you are describing "free america". In California, all stripped receivers are sold as rifles on DROS. You cannot turn this into a pistol after that. This is why the Franklin Armory AR pistol on the roster is a big deal now that you "can't" do 80%'s anymore, it's the only legal way moving forward.

[floogy]

[Quiet]

If a receiver was drosed in CA. Never had a stock on it.

Does the dros here affect the receiver if it is moved out of state?

Is it considered a rifle in another state anyway even though it never had a stock on it?

CA DROS does not effect the legality of the firearm while it is in another State.
How a firearm was processed through CA DROS, only matters when the firearm is in CA.

So, a receiver that was CA DROS'd as a "long gun, rifle, receiver" and taken to another State and made into a "handgun", then brought back into CA; will cause the firearm to be considered a SBR (weapon made from a rifle) due to it being listed in AFS as a "rifle".

Under Federal laws/regulations, a receiver is classified as a Title 1 Other.

In most States, the receiver will be treated as a Title 1 Other.
^Some States have firearm laws that may change this classification. So, need to check firearm laws in the State you are in.

[Q]

[floogy]

CA DROS does not effect the legality of the firearm while it is in another State.
How a firearm was processed through CA DROS, only matters when the firearm is in CA.

So, a receiver that was CA DROS'd as a "long gun, rifle, receiver" and taken to another State and made into a "handgun", then brought back into CA; will cause the firearm to be considered a SBR (weapon made from a rifle) due to it being listed in AFS as a "rifle".

Under Federal laws/regulations, a receiver is classified as a Title 1 Other.

In most States, the receiver will be treated as a Title 1 Other.
^Some States have firearm laws that may change this classification. So, need to check firearm laws in the State you are in.

[EBR Works]

How is it entered on a 4473 in CA? Do they enter it to match the CA DROS as a long gun or correctly as a receiver per the federal definition?

Then it would beg the question, does a 4473 for a receiver purchase checked off as a long gun make the receiver a long gun, despite being a stripped lower.

Hypothetical situation, I don’t usually like these since they go off the rails, but here goes. John Q Public buys a receiver at his local shop and the FFL fills out the 4473 as a long gun because it’s CA. Perhaps incorrectly. John Q then moves to Texas and builds an AR pistol out of it. He sells it to some guy on Armslist and it ends up being eventually confiscated from some gang banger. ATF assists in looking up where the weapon originated and finds DROS and 4473 from the original shop. Though technically John Q committed no crime, the only existing record of that receiver is that it is a long gun.

Obviously a pretty far fetched situation. But could a 4473 make a firearm into a long gun according to federal rules?


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It would be listed as a receiver on the 4473. Once you leave CA, it can be built into a pistol or rifle. Just don’t return it to CA if it was built as a pistol or SBR while outside CA.

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[EBR Works]

The ATF would become aware of an incorrect 4473 entry during an inspection. The entry would have to match what is in their acquisition and disposition (A&D) log. All dealers, including those in CA, are well motivated to avoid doing this.