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  • johnk518
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 978

    Ammo and Agriculture

    Lol, I just heard someone on the internet say the Agricultural stop at the CA/NV border is going to search for Ammo after July 1.

    Paranoia is setting in I think.
  • #2
    PatC415
    • Nov 2014
    • 979

    The fud started back in 2018;
    It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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    • #3
      mooner760HD
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 617

      They aren't the police. They are concerned with agriculture.
      NRA Life Member

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      • #4
        P5Ret
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 6401

        Paranoia set in a long time ago. I have yet to go through an AG checkpoint that is right at the border. I think the one closest to the border is in Dorris, and even then it's a few miles in, and the turn off for Tule Lake is between the border and the checkpoint. I haven't been able to find an LE subsection that applies to Ag inspector's at the checkpoint's, haven't looked real hard either.

        For an infraction the officer would have to witness the transaction, and the person crossing the border. Not going to happen with budget's the way they are, too much expense for no real gain.

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        • #5
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Which one? Another from reference by sisters brother in laws hairdressers cousin on internet about searches.

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          • #6
            Notpc
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 3946

            Halt and prepare to be probed!
            "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
            Roy Batty

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            • #7
              boltstop
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 927

              Just for completeness I’d like to hear a legal opinion on what powers these stations actually have.

              Can they demand to search me and/or my vehicle for bananas? Ammunition? Drugs?

              What if they demand (not ask) to search? Can I say no and drive away?

              I’ve always been curious.

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              • #8
                splithoof
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2015
                • 6100

                "someone on the internet said...."
                Is that one wet-wipe, or two?

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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44694

                  Those are "Border Protection Stations" - see https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/PE/Ext...n/borders.html

                  They're covered in Title 3 "Food and Agriculture" of the CA Code of Regulations; https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pe/Ext...rders_faq.html says
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #10
                    johnk518
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 978

                    Originally posted by splithoof
                    "someone on the internet said...."
                    Is that one wet-wipe, or two?
                    I could be more specific but, what's the point? It's a shame that so many "donate" to him.

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                    • #11
                      ErikC12
                      Member
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 344

                      When I was trucking, whenever they asked what I was hauling I'd always tell them it was bootleg citrus. I'll tell you, those guys have no sense of humor.

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                      • #12
                        johnk518
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 978

                        Simply put, have the Highway Patrol ever come to your house to give you a ticket regarding your barking dog?

                        The Agi stop is more concerned with a truckload of fruit coming in spreading the fruitflies again. I would also assume that Pot transport/import would be riskier than anything metal.

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                        • #13
                          johnk518
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 978

                          Originally posted by ErikC12
                          When I was trucking, whenever they asked what I was hauling I'd always tell them it was bootleg citrus. I'll tell you, those guys have no sense of humor.
                          Either would I sitting out there in the middle of nowhere, I think I would rather be a Traffic court judge, but don't quote me.

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                          • #14
                            Pardini
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 1204

                            Originally posted by johnk518
                            Lol, I just heard someone on the internet say the Agricultural stop at the CA/NV border is going to search for Ammo after July 1.

                            Paranoia is setting in I think.
                            There is a proposed bill to post signs regarding bringing firearms and ammo into the State.
                            Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
                            Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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                            • #15
                              big red
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1234

                              My non-legal reasoning would say that without probable cause there is no legal search warrant. If everyone says they have no guns or ammo when coming back from "vacation" then the worst they can do is back up cars and trucks since anything else would be illegal search and seizure. A call to the media would be embarrassing or cell phone video on the internet showing gestapo behavior by fruity inspectors. this would turn into a media nightmare if done right.

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