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  • Blacktail 8541
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 1567

    Full Auto & Suppressed!

    I was at the range today haveing a great time and in pulls 2 vehicles. Out pop 2 men and start double tapping with a ar and 30 rounders. No big deal probably registered I think. Durring a cease fire I walk over to them to see what they are shooting and say hi. Their vehicles are cramed with gear! One guy pulls out a Suppressed 9mm AR and as soon as the line goes hot they start shooting long burst of full auto. They stay about 30 min and start to leave. As they get even with my vehicle they stop and walk over. They are eyeing my ARs and ask a couple of questions. I show them both rifles and point out that they have fixed mags and require a tool to remove. They asked why they need a tool. I proceed to explain about the regs and what you can and can't have with differant types of off list builds. They asked what brand off lowers as they had not seen the makes they said. I told them the brands and pointed them out on the recievers. They complimented me on my weapons and left.

    Tonight I called a certain LEO friend of mine and described the vehicles they were driveing and gave him a description of the two men. He knew who they were right away, local DOJ agents! So even in a rural county you better have your act together and stay leagle. By the way the were very easy going and polite.
    BT 8541

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    50 Freak
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3412

    All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal.
    I'm Rick James...Be-otch!!!!

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    • #3
      Blacktail 8541
      Senior Member
      • May 2006
      • 1567

      I have a number of LEO friends as well as family in law enforcement. While some LEOs' can be a royal pain, They still do a necesarry job. I do agree some are more equal than others, as they get all the fun stuff and we can only dream about it!
      BT 8541

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      • #4
        Blue
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 8069

        Good thing all your stuff was legit. What's DOJ need FA and suppressors for?
        Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
        Let my aim be true and my hand faster
        than those who would seek to destroy me.
        Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
        Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
        And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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        • #5
          blkA4alb
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2006
          • 3576

          Originally posted by Blue84s10
          Good thing all your stuff was legit. What's DOJ need FA and suppressors for?
          Us....... .
          Please, calm down.

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          • #6
            NRAhighpowershooter
            Super Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2003
            • 6485

            Originally posted by Blue84s10
            Good thing all your stuff was legit. What's DOJ need FA and suppressors for?

            For when they feel the need to come for our OLL's under some other pretenses......
            'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

            Distinguished Rifleman Badge #2220

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            • #7
              socom308
              Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 110

              One legitimate need for the use of suppressed firearms by LE tactical entry teams is to mitigate the hot gasses that escape from the muzzle of the weapon when/if the need to shoot arises when making tactical entry into clandestine drug labs. These places usually contain an explosive fog of chemicals that are just waiting for the right ignition source so that they might go BOOM!

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              • #8
                thmpr
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3785

                What range were you at?
                NRA Life Member

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                • #9
                  Blacktail 8541
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 1567

                  Originally posted by thmpr
                  What range were you at?
                  Oroville.......
                  BT 8541

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                  • #10
                    Sig226
                    Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 459

                    Originally posted by socom308
                    One legitimate need for the use of suppressed firearms by LE tactical entry teams is to mitigate the hot gasses that escape from the muzzle of the weapon when/if the need to shoot arises when making tactical entry into clandestine drug labs. These places usually contain an explosive fog of chemicals that are just waiting for the right ignition source so that they might go BOOM!

                    To highjack the thread... Can this REALLY be the case?


                    I would think spark comes from the ejection port as well.... In fact I remember a case where SWAT would not go into a house that was filled with gas by the "perp". He had turned on the stoves without flames...

                    They ended up breaking out windows, doors, and a wall I think to air the place out.

                    My point is--They had silencers....
                    "The right "to carry arms in the militia for the purpose of killing game" is worthy of the mad hatter. Thus, these purposive qualifying phrases positively establish that "to bear arms" is not limited to military use." - Justice Scalia
                    -Heller v. District of Columbia

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                    • #11
                      Stanze
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3301

                      Originally posted by Blue84s10
                      Good thing all your stuff was legit. What's DOJ need FA and suppressors for?
                      Because they can!(no pun intended)
                      Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

                      "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


                      "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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                      • #12
                        Astig Boy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1016

                        Originally posted by Sig226
                        Originally posted by socom308
                        One legitimate need for the use of suppressed firearms by LE tactical entry teams is to mitigate the hot gasses that escape from the muzzle of the weapon when/if the need to shoot arises when making tactical entry into clandestine drug labs. These places usually contain an explosive fog of chemicals that are just waiting for the right ignition source so that they might go BOOM!
                        To highjack the thread... Can this REALLY be the case?


                        I would think spark comes from the ejection port as well.... In fact I remember a case where SWAT would not go into a house that was filled with gas by the "perp". He had turned on the stoves without flames...

                        They ended up breaking out windows, doors, and a wall I think to air the place out.

                        My point is--They had silencers....
                        I really dont think that is true. Think about it...no LE is going to have a shoot out in a gas filled (or chemical filled) house even with a supressed firearm. They would be more worried about their bullets flying and ricochet off objects that spark and make a ignition source.

                        I remember watching a SWAT entry on TV...the LEO was going to toss a flashbang into the house but then he smelt gas, so he couldnt. I put the pin back and the flashbang exploded in his pant pocket.

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                        • #13
                          TKo_Productions
                          Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 370

                          Originally posted by Blue84s10
                          Good thing all your stuff was legit. What's DOJ need FA and suppressors for?
                          Hunting down and apprehending dangerous desks.
                          In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:

                          "You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."

                          To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:

                          Whats your definition of soon?

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                          • #14
                            Blacktail 8541
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 1567

                            I don't have any ideal why they would have suppressors. But they did. It was way cool seeing them shoot full auto and hearing only a fraction of the sound you would expect. Even with my time in the USMC it was a rare occasion to see suppressed weapons being fired.
                            BT 8541

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                            • #15
                              VeryCoolCat
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11275

                              The DOJ is pure hypocracy. They get the fun stuff while we are stuck with these neutered junkers instead of LE quality lowers.
                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
                              Originally posted by ivanimal
                              Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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