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  • L84CABO
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 8619

    The Myth That The US Leads The World In Mass Shootings

    When you hear the Left making statements that US leads the world in mass shootings, they are usually quoting the study done by University of Alabama associate professor, Adam Lankford.

    Well our old friend, John Lott, has something to say about this. It seems that Mr. Lankford based his opinion on the supposed fact that there were 90 mass shootings in the US since 1966, compared to 202 in the rest of the world. Well John Lott found over 3000 mass shootings in the rest of the world! Moreover, it appears to date that Mr Lankford has been unwilling to share his data and exactly how he got it.

    Link to the article here...


    The Dominant Narrative

    "Let's be clear,” President Obama said in 2015 after a shooting in North Carolina. “At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."

    Sen. Harry Reid echoed this sentiment. "The United States is the only advanced country where this kind of mass violence occurs.”

    Media headlines have left little doubt that the US leads the world in mass shootings. In fact, according to CNN, it isn’t even close.

    And John Stossel just recently did a report on this as well if you would rather watch the video...


    Last edited by L84CABO; 02-27-2019, 12:32 AM.
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    ja308
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2009
    • 12660

    Are you implying the associate professor from a crummy government school cooked the books or is just flat out incompetent?

    Professor John Lott's book more guns =less crime is a must read for all who want facts.
    Although I must admit when reading it, some of algorithms data was beyond my understanding. However the idea's were clearly outlined and how the data was collected was understandable.

    Thanx for posting OP !

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    • #3
      BTFlyer
      Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 233

      The professor is probably looking at the stats that last year America had over 300 mass shootings and European countries like the UK had zero or close to zero...

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      • #4
        MJ50
        Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 157

        fake news should be a felony

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        • #5
          harbormaster
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2017
          • 5769

          The elite class isn't the billionaires or bankers;

          It is Academia that makes stuff up, for Government and sold to the sheep by Media.
          1. Compared to what?
          2. At what cost?
          3. What hard evidence do you have?

          T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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          • #6
            ja308
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2009
            • 12660

            Originally posted by BTFlyer
            The professor is probably looking at the stats that last year America had over 300 mass shootings and European countries like the UK had zero or close to zero...
            In other news nations w/o cars have zero car deaths !

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            • #7
              BTFlyer
              Member
              • Jun 2017
              • 233

              Originally posted by ja308
              In other news nations w/o cars have zero car deaths !
              That's left wing gun-grabbing thinking right there!

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              • #8
                ja308
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2009
                • 12660

                Originally posted by BTFlyer
                That's left wing gun-grabbing thinking right there!
                Why would you say that ?

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                • #9
                  PogoJack
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 2160

                  Thank you, OP! It's great to address the gish galloping and sealioning of leftist tyrants.

                  A mild hijack but since we are talking about facts, here is an article that my pea brain found useful in order to counter the more guns=higher rate gun deaths statistic.

                  Gun control advocates often contend that more gun deaths occur when guns are abundant in society.  The statistics they use to make the case are not persuasive.  The most commonly cited evidence for the linkage is that the states wit...
                  "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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                  • #10
                    k1dude
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2009
                    • 14064

                    I wonder why Lott only chose between 2009 and 2015? Perhaps the data was so overwhelming in his favor he simply stopped going back at 2009? I can't imagine the herculean task of trying to find all mass shootings since 1966 in 171 countries printed in native languages.
                    "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

                    "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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                    • #11
                      BTFlyer
                      Member
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 233

                      Originally posted by ja308
                      Why would you say that ?
                      You said that countries with almost no guns have almost no mass shootings...You are correct...but it is an unpopular opinion here on CG

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                      • #12
                        ja308
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 12660

                        Originally posted by BTFlyer
                        You said that countries with almost no guns have almost no mass shootings...You are correct...but it is an unpopular opinion here on CG
                        Thank you !
                        Fortunately we do have a really low murder rate and it would be lots lower w/o the politics of open borders and democratic cities where politicians pay baby mamas to have more kids w/o fathers!

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                        • #13
                          CAL.BAR
                          CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5632

                          Originally posted by BTFlyer
                          You said that countries with almost no guns have almost no mass shootings...You are correct...but it is an unpopular opinion here on CG
                          EXACTLY. We decry the "other" side for lack of intellectually honesty, and show none of our own. YES! Countries without guns in the hands of the general populace have MUCH lower firearms deaths (shocking). So what? Why try to deny that?

                          There are very few deaths by drowning in the desert.

                          The point is... and our HONEST answer to statistics like this should be. YES, those countries have lower firearms deaths, but the freedom from tyranny and right to self-protect firearms afford a FREE people is more important than any number of firearms related deaths. Period. Much like the utility of automotive transport in the hands of a free people outweighs the any number of deaths from automobile accidents.

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                          • #14
                            DDM4556
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2601

                            (please read the following with an upward inflection at the end of every comment.)

                            Sooo he's like, a professor... At like, a major college and stuff... So he knows like, how to do research.... And so what he says has to be true.... Cuz like, books don't lie.
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                            • #15
                              k1dude
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2009
                              • 14064

                              Originally posted by BTFlyer
                              You said that countries with almost no guns have almost no mass shootings...You are correct...but it is an unpopular opinion here on CG
                              Not even close to true. The greatest number of mass shooting deaths by far is from countries that have outright bans on all guns.
                              "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

                              "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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