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  • #61
    TrappedinCalifornia
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2018
    • 10073

    Same guy, three years apart on the articles. Same story. Both methods work, but he has his reasons why he prefers one over the other, reasons, as I've already partly stated, I share. But, whatever works best for you, your firearm, and your circumstances.

    Why I Don’t Use My Gun’s Slide Release Lever

    SLIDE RELEASE VS. RACKING: PROS AND CONS

    The bottom line is that there is no 'right/wrong' answer between the two options. In fact, the OP's question wasn't about right or wrong, but: "Which do you prefer?"

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    • #62
      sigstroker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2009
      • 19780

      Originally posted by VictorFranko
      I've seen a semi-auto fail to return to battery too many times when using the slide lock to release the slide.
      I have never seen that even once in over 40 years of shooting.

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      • #63
        TMB 1
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7153

        1934 Mauser really mess with the rack slide guys.




        P08 Luger mess with rack slide and slide release guys.



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        • #64
          solipsism
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 1332

          Slide release all day everyday.

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          • #65
            FresnoRob
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 2133

            Originally posted by enegue
            Yup, if you slam the mag in with the right technique, the slide will do its thing automatically on some pistols. Very common on Beretta 92s.
            Otherwise slide release. Combat reloads much faster than racking the slide.

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            • #66
              NapaPlinker
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 965

              Well. The "Lever" in question isn't called a slide release soooooooooooo which of you b f n up?
              Pew Pew Pew.

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              • #67
                IVC
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 17628

                Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                Take a shooting class with a Grand Master or former member of a tier 1 military unit. Take several. You'll see a pattern as to which the best shooters in the world utilize, and their decisions are not based on feelings.
                True, but they also use a very specific class of handguns - full size and carefully selected.

                Just to play devil's advocate, there are guns that don't even have exposed slide lock. Then, some compact and subcompacts with stiff recoil springs (required for stronger calibers on shorter slides) are at the point where the slide cannot be released reliably by using the slide stop because it's way too tight for the size of the lever. Also, very sweaty hands might prevent engagement of some levers, and an incapacitated hand would necessarily require the use of anchor points and a version of the slingshot method.

                Different methods for different applications. For competition, slide lock lever is the way to go without doubt.
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                • #68
                  anonymouscuban
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 1440

                  Originally posted by IVC
                  Just remember that different games have different rules. IDPA doesn't allow ammunition to be left behind, so they almost always shoot to the slide lock. Also, most would consider "tactical reload" a reload where you keep your unspent magazine, not what you do in USPSA.



                  I saw your first stage from your first match on Enos forum, but no video of Texas Star. Are you going to post it? I would like to see the order you took and the transition times...
                  I didn't know that about IDPA. Not too familiar with the rules.

                  I shot 2 Texas Stars during my first match. Two different stages. I will upload and share video.

                  First star I did well. I think I completed it 7 shots. The 2nd one I choked. I think it took me 12 rounds.

                  The first star... order I shot was from top to bottom. Started with the very top plate first which was perfectly vertical. Then I shot the plate at 10 and then 2. Then moved on to the last 2 plates.

                  I did the 2nd star in the same order or tried but I choked on hitting the plate at 2 o'clock and it started moving. Then it went downhill because I got frustrated.

                  I've watched a few different videos since and have read some materials online since then. I think next time I will shoot the top plate first. Then move to the plate at 2, shoot it and then let the other plates rotate and come to me.

                  I learned that this method is slow but easier. The fastest way is to shoot a bottom plate and then let the plates rotate down and shoot as they present themselves. I don't think I'm good enough to do this yet.


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                  • #69
                    SomeGuy75
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 1405

                    Great comments from everyone. I think because my handgun training came from competition rather than military or law enforcement might explain why I always used the slide release. Seems like a common theme here is competition shooters tend to use the slide stop more than combat trained shooters. Always interesting to see my fellow shooters thoughts on things like this.

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                    • #70
                      wilderness medic
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 845

                      Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                      I've seen more people screw up racking the slide. Put them on a timer, in front of peers, and it'll happen.

                      1. They pull the slide back but not far enough to disengage the slide stop, so they have to circle back 'round again.

                      2. They pull the slide back but then ride it forward a little, causing a malfunction.

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                      • #71
                        Jimvh2
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 681

                        Being left handed those pesky slide releases are on the wrong side of the gun!

                        Slingshot!
                        "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"

                        NRA life member since 1997
                        CRPA member

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                        • #72
                          Robert1234
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 3080

                          Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                          Which guns?
                          Most available in CA.

                          That said, I've adapted to using my trigger finger on the slide stop, as the mag goes in the gun, my hand slams it home and the slide stop releases the slide.

                          Easier on 1911 than most plastic guns, but sometimes you gotta adapt, improvise and overcome.

                          I like the M&P cause the slide goes home of its own accord when you slam the magazine home.

                          Glocks do that sometimes, though not reliably enough to expect it so I just slingshot them.

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                          • #73
                            oldveteran
                            Member
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 246

                            Of the two different semi-auto pistols I have neither owners manual calls that lever a slide release lever.

                            S&W calls it a Slide Stop

                            Sig calls it a Slide Catch Lever

                            What does your manuals call it?

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                            • #74
                              Rez805
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 505

                              Originally posted by Robert1234
                              Most available in CA.

                              That said, I've adapted to using my trigger finger on the slide stop, as the mag goes in the gun, my hand slams it home and the slide stop releases the slide.

                              Easier on 1911 than most plastic guns, but sometimes you gotta adapt, improvise and overcome.

                              I like the M&P cause the slide goes home of its own accord when you slam the magazine home.

                              Glocks do that sometimes, though not reliably enough to expect it so I just slingshot them.
                              Yup. A wonderful feature that they apparently "corrected" in the 2.0



                              That being said, I agree that you should be comfortable with both and then decide which one you prefer.

                              Here's a GM who does an overhand rack around 1:07


                              Pretty sporty. Probably because he's practiced and done it a million times.
                              Last edited by Rez805; 02-01-2019, 7:05 PM.

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                              • #75
                                nitroxdiver
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6979

                                HK P7M8. Slide goes to lock on empty. Hit the paddle release with your trigger finger and empty mag shoots out. Insert new magazine with weak hand. Re-squeeze the squeeze cocker and slide closes, chambering a round, and cocking the striker. Resume sending rounds downrange. Perfection. On other less refined handguns, I hit the slide release.


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